I just got SH4 from a budget bin n don't know what to expect

Silver_Silence · 09-11-08, 09:51 PM

I just got a copy of SH4 gold edition from bargain bin and don't know what to expect. I know it's photo realistic compare to SH3 but players seem to favor SH3. Just when you want to move this thread to SH4, look I am not done with SH3 just yet heh. SH3 is great game. I figure the SH4 u-boat mission is SH3 with a graphic upgrade? Anyway I am install it right now just to make sure it can run on my laptop.

GoldenRivet · 09-11-08, 10:00 PM

until GWX4 comes out you would do well to put it back in the bargain bin.

Silver_Silence · 09-11-08, 10:49 PM

So why do people like SH3 over SH4? SH4 is supposed to be newer and thus better.

kylania · 09-11-08, 11:52 PM

Graphically it's "better" by far. Crew Management it's better (kind of, I liked having to pick crew well in SH3, just not having to drag them all around every few minutes). Map tools it's better. UI it's slightly better.

But for me, the gameplay of SH3 is far better at this point. I'm not entirely sure why, but even with lesser graphics and a few missing features I enjoy SH3 more slightly. I think GWX is probably a lot of that though. And the fact that I enjoy the Uboat war more than the US sub war.

One small that that I can't seem to get to work right with SH4 is opening tubes. In SH3 I was always able to switch to the interior view, head to the weapons guy and actually flip the torpedo tube doors open from there. That was really cool.

Can't seem to do that in SH4. Gameplay wise I can, but not in the new super duper 3D interior. *shrug*

Maybe when a fully supported Atlantic campaign with type VII boats comes out I'll be truely happy with SH4, but as it is now, not so much.

bookworm_020 · 09-12-08, 12:23 AM

SH3 is liked more due to it being more mature in having more mods and bigger upgrades for realism (There are plenty for SH4 as well, but it hasn't been around for as long to have the history of mods)

Sh4 is a great game and does beat SH3 in graphics and other realistic features, but It's hard to leave SH3 alone!

You should be able to play SH4 if your computer meets the basic specs required for the game, and you can scale the effects so it won't slow the game down too much (look in the Sh4 forum for tips to improve performance)

SH4 is well worth the effort and a great partner to SH3.

OuNiS · 09-12-08, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver_Silence

So why do people like SH3 over SH4? SH4 is supposed to be newer and thus better.

Sometimes "newer" doesn't mean "better".

nirwana · 09-12-08, 02:51 AM

The major differences regarding gameplay for me:

In sh3 the royal navy is able to counter the subs over time and finally develops superior hardware and tactics to neutralise them completely. I like to be the underdog in this confrontation and dont mind to herass mostly merchants.

In sh4 the japanese ignore the threat by subs and therefore never improved their defence against them like the british. I can sink multiple carriers in 1 taskforce without even being detected at any time of the war. TMO and RFB shift it into the right direction to a certain degree but cant ignore historic facts.

If u like to smash big stuff and dont mind to have the edge over the japanese at any time sh4 is ure choice. If u like challenges and love to think about the right tactic how to attack the next convoy 24/7 in RL sh3 is preferable.

Myxale · 09-12-08, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OuNiS

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Originally Posted by Silver_Silence

So why do people like SH3 over SH4? SH4 is supposed to be newer and thus better.

Sometimes "newer" doesn't mean "better".

Jimbuna · 09-12-08, 03:26 AM

SH3 is over 3 years old now and has had a great deal of modding work done to it.

SH4 is by far the newer/more modern engine and I believe we will see greater leaps and bounds over the next 3 years.

XLjedi · 09-12-08, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver_Silence

So why do people like SH3 over SH4? SH4 is supposed to be newer and thus better.

The user interface is just heaps better...

It's truly sad what they did (or neglected?) in SH4.

Graphics just can't overcome a poor user interface.

09-12-08, 12:48 PM

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Graphics just can't overcome a poor user interface.[/quote]

Hey, we are talking about SH3 and SH4, NOT women.

ReallyDedPoet · 09-12-08, 12:55 PM

If you have not done so already, you may want to read some of the threads ( new and old ) over in SH4, and if you have
further questions post in those forums as well.

RDP

09-11-08, 09:51 PM	#1
Silver_Silence Seaman Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 38 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I just got SH4 from a bargain bin n don't know what to expect I just got a copy of SH4 gold edition from bargain bin and don't know what to expect. I know it's photo realistic compare to SH3 but players seem to favor SH3. Just when you want to move this thread to SH4, look I am not done with SH3 just yet heh. SH3 is great game. I figure the SH4 u-boat mission is SH3 with a graphic upgrade? Anyway I am install it right now just to make sure it can run on my laptop. Last edited by Silver_Silence; 09-11-08 at 10:48 PM.

09-11-08, 10:00 PM	#2
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	until GWX4 comes out you would do well to put it back in the bargain bin. __________________

09-11-08, 11:52 PM	#4
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Graphically it's "better" by far. Crew Management it's better (kind of, I liked having to pick crew well in SH3, just not having to drag them all around every few minutes). Map tools it's better. UI it's slightly better. But for me, the gameplay of SH3 is far better at this point. I'm not entirely sure why, but even with lesser graphics and a few missing features I enjoy SH3 more slightly. I think GWX is probably a lot of that though. And the fact that I enjoy the Uboat war more than the US sub war. One small that that I can't seem to get to work right with SH4 is opening tubes. In SH3 I was always able to switch to the interior view, head to the weapons guy and actually flip the torpedo tube doors open from there. That was really cool. Can't seem to do that in SH4. Gameplay wise I can, but not in the new super duper 3D interior. shrug Maybe when a fully supported Atlantic campaign with type VII boats comes out I'll be truely happy with SH4, but as it is now, not so much. __________________

09-12-08, 12:23 AM	#5
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	SH3 is liked more due to it being more mature in having more mods and bigger upgrades for realism (There are plenty for SH4 as well, but it hasn't been around for as long to have the history of mods) Sh4 is a great game and does beat SH3 in graphics and other realistic features, but It's hard to leave SH3 alone! You should be able to play SH4 if your computer meets the basic specs required for the game, and you can scale the effects so it won't slow the game down too much (look in the Sh4 forum for tips to improve performance) SH4 is well worth the effort and a great partner to SH3. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

09-12-08, 02:51 AM	#7
nirwana Sonar Guy Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 380 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	The major differences regarding gameplay for me: In sh3 the royal navy is able to counter the subs over time and finally develops superior hardware and tactics to neutralise them completely. I like to be the underdog in this confrontation and dont mind to herass mostly merchants. In sh4 the japanese ignore the threat by subs and therefore never improved their defence against them like the british. I can sink multiple carriers in 1 taskforce without even being detected at any time of the war. TMO and RFB shift it into the right direction to a certain degree but cant ignore historic facts. If u like to smash big stuff and dont mind to have the edge over the japanese at any time sh4 is ure choice. If u like challenges and love to think about the right tactic how to attack the next convoy 24/7 in RL sh3 is preferable.

09-11-08, 10:49 PM	#3
Silver_Silence Seaman Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 38 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	So why do people like SH3 over SH4? SH4 is supposed to be newer and thus better.

09-12-08, 03:26 AM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,615 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	SH3 is over 3 years old now and has had a great deal of modding work done to it. SH4 is by far the newer/more modern engine and I believe we will see greater leaps and bounds over the next 3 years. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-12-08, 12:48 PM	#11
Flamingboat Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	[/quote] Graphics just can't overcome a poor user interface.[/quote] Hey, we are talking about SH3 and SH4, NOT women.

09-12-08, 12:55 PM	#12
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,887 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	If you have not done so already, you may want to read some of the threads ( new and old ) over in SH4, and if you have further questions post in those forums as well. RDP __________________ Back in the Day