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Old 08-28-08, 11:30 AM   #1
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Please someone define "bad art" and "good art" for me
Bad art = an opinion while good art = an opinion, therefore bad art = good art
For someone to define the above piece as good art, I'd suspect they probably live in a trailer park and lack an education.

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PS. From the 1963 communist agenda for America:

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22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings," substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.



23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
Seems they are succeeding. This falls under the ugliness and repulsive section.
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Old 08-28-08, 02:54 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Please someone define "bad art" and "good art" for me
Bad art = an opinion while good art = an opinion, therefore bad art = good art
For someone to define the above piece as good art, I'd suspect they probably live in a trailer park and lack an education.

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PS. From the 1963 communist agenda for America:

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22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings," substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.



23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
Seems they are succeeding. This falls under the ugliness and repulsive section.
Yeah the artist must have been a commie, Subman doesn't like it.
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Old 08-28-08, 11:49 AM   #3
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So, one needs a good education to appreciate "good art" ?
Not really a good one - At least kindergarten though.

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Old 08-28-08, 11:50 AM   #4
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We already had a 'pig messiah' here in Finland in 1969 I think. The maker, Harro Koskinen, did get into some trouble with the law though.
http://www.kiasma.fi/index.php?id=190&FL=1&L=1

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I guess one should ask, what's the point of placing a frog or a pig on a crucifix in the first place? In Kippenberger's case it was a perchance for polemics...

Polemics
Po*lem"ics\, n. [Cf. F. pol['e]mique.] The art or practice of disputation or controversy, especially on religious subjects; that branch of theological science which pertains to the history or conduct of ecclesiastical controversy.

Just another artist "making his mark" on the world. Reminds me of Warhol and his "Campbells soup can"...
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Old 08-28-08, 12:49 PM   #6
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I guess one should ask, what's the point of placing a frog or a pig on a crucifix in the first place? In Kippenberger's case it was a perchance for polemics...

Polemics
Po*lem"ics\, n. [Cf. F. pol['e]mique.] The art or practice of disputation or controversy, especially on religious subjects; that branch of theological science which pertains to the history or conduct of ecclesiastical controversy.

Just another artist "making his mark" on the world. Reminds me of Warhol and his "Campbells soup can"...
Same mentality a serial killer uses heading into a shopping mall when he plans to shoot innocent people. A childs mentality.

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