Spaceship Could Fly Faster Than Light

[Thomen]

I m not really sure on this, but didn't Einstein or Hawkin proposed that the time constant is local in a sense that every object and being travels with it's own time bubble around it?

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Thomen

I m not really sure on this, but didn't Einstein or Hawkin proposed that the time constant is local in a sense that every object and being travels with it's own time bubble around it?

I think that would be a matter of perception. Yours is different from a fly persay. I am no sure if either of them claimed this.

-S

[Peto]

This is great stuff! None-the-less, all I really want right now is to fold time back to this AM so I can reset the BIOS on that stupid computer before I reinstall the OS !

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

How can you say what light would look like there? You must remember that your time and space is slowed down to normal inside the bubble. So maybe you see the traces just like that as it slows to enter your time and space? Think about it.

-S

Yes inside a bubble, but I stil say, that you will not be able to see further than the shell is.

IF the shell is 10 metres in front of you, you will only see those 10 metres no more.

Offcourse my theory can't be proven until they make the first warp-test

Markus

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Yes inside a bubble, but I stil say, that you will not be able to see further than the shell is.

IF the shell is 10 metres in front of you, you will only see those 10 metres no more.

Offcourse my theory can't be proven until they make the first warp-test

Markus

You first!

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

You first!

Aye Aye Sir

I think it would be an fantastic journey

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Ya know? I was thinkin about your said Stargate. Suppose there is a collider in there, and they create micro black holes, and use it to do something similar to the above of stepping across the Universe? Maybe the Stargate idea has merit! :p

-S

Why don't we let STEED test it

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Why don't we let STEED test it

Nah! He would never come back to this Earth, at least not while the labor party is in charge! :p

-S

[Blacklight]

This theory has been around for quite a long time. The only catch is that it involves a type of energy (negative energy) that we have never detected before in nature but heck.. who knows...
We didn't know about dark matter/dark energy until recently so for all we know... negative energy could also exist. :hmm:

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

This theory has been around for quite a long time. The only catch is that it involves a type of energy (negative energy) that we have never detected before in nature but heck.. who knows...
We didn't know about dark matter/dark energy until recently so for all we know... negative energy could also exist. :hmm:

Indeed. I recall a group of German and French scientists (along with one Swedish fellow) that proposed the idea during the late 1980s.

[kiwi_2005]

No no no!, why do you think flying saucers are round and small, how can Grey's travel millions of light yrs in a craft that seem would run out of fuel on the first light yr? Well according to some writer i read many years ago in a science mag is that the Greys flying saucers are run on magnets and energy, no fuel. - they have worked out a system where the magnets make the craft fly very fast speeds 1000's of times faster than light they can get from one point to the next that might be 100,000 light yrs away in minutes. Flying or jumping from one galazy to another is nothing to them. In the middle of the craft is a set of magnets all faced in a circle pointing to the main core that sits in the middle. The craft has to be round for the magnets to work.

Well that's what i read, with it explained more scientifically than mine.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

No no no!, why do you think flying saucers are round and small, how can Grey's travel millions of light yrs in a craft that seem would run out of fuel on the first light yr? Well according to some writer i read many years ago in a science mag is that the Greys flying saucers are run on magnets and energy, no fuel. - they have worked out a system where the magnets make the craft fly very fast speeds 1000's of times faster than light they can get from one point to the next that might be 100,000 light yrs away in minutes. Flying or jumping from one galazy to another is nothing to them. In the middle of the craft is a set of magnets all faced in a circle pointing to the main core that sits in the middle. The craft has to be round for the magnets to work.

Well that's what i read, with it explained more scientifically than mine.

Gravity man. Gravity. Grey run on Gravity. Control gravity, not only could you turn 90 degrees on a dime, but you would also avoid crushing the occupants of said craft.

-S

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Gravity man. Gravity. Grey run on Gravity. Control gravity, not only could you turn 90 degrees on a dime, but you would also avoid crushing the occupants of said craft.

-S

I've always been a proponent of that type of propulsion for ftl. I once asked a physics professor what the speed of gravity was;

"9.8 meters per second"

"No, sir, that's acceleration due to gravity on Earth in a vacuum. What is the speed of gravity itself?"

"I don't take your meaning."

"If we have an earth-sized object in a pure vacuum, and instantly introduce another earth-size object 100,000 miles away, how long would it take for their gravitational pulls to effect each other?

"Well, instantly, I suppose"

"What makes you say that?"

"Last I checked, we were working on inertia, why can't you ever ask topical questions?"


Maybe I like the sound of gravitic propulsion because I don't understand gravity, which makes as good an excuse as any for a sci-fi propulsion source.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

I've always been a proponent of that type of propulsion for ftl. I once asked a physics professor what the speed of gravity was;

"9.8 meters per second"

"No, sir, that's acceleration due to gravity on Earth in a vacuum. What is the speed of gravity itself?"

"I don't take your meaning."

"If we have an earth-sized object in a pure vacuum, and instantly introduce another earth-size object 100,000 miles away, how long would it take for their gravitational pulls to effect each other?

"Well, instantly, I suppose"

"What makes you say that?"

"Last I checked, we were working on inertia, why can't you ever ask topical questions?"


Maybe I like the sound of gravitic propulsion because I don't understand gravity, which makes as good an excuse as any for a sci-fi propulsion source.

If you can bend light with gravity, and even stop it and trap it, and you can rip open space with it, and you can manipulate time with it, why would it not be the ultimate propulsion system? You don't need to completely understand it to understand the emense power you would control if you had complete control over it. Small details like time travel and interdimensional doors being opened up are just a small neat thing you can learn about later. All you care about at first is directional travel, and pulling distant galaxies to you without actually moving them for quick travel.

-S

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

If you can bend light with gravity, and even stop it and trap it, and you can rip open space with it, and you can manipulate time with it, why would it not be the ultimate propulsion system? You don't need to completely understand it to understand the emense power you would control if you had complete control over it. Small details like time travel and interdimensional doors being opened up are just a small neat thing you can learn about later. All you care about at first is directional travel, and pulling distant galaxies to you without actually moving them for quick travel.

-S

I agree somewhat, but my idea of harnessing the power of gravity is using gravitic bubble as one would use an electromagnet in an electric motor. Pulling distant objects towards oneself without causing a cataclysm would be much more difficult.

It seems a bit like some mathematicians' views of black holes. Even Steven Hawkings has suggested that, due to the singular nature of their gravity well, they could be used as wormholes. I'm no genius, but this seems absurd. Yeah, in a mathematical perspective a black hole creates an infinite "vortex", thus leaving a hole at the apex, but in reality a black hole is just a ball of superdense matter, no matter what its' gravitic signature is. The only effect of generating another black hole would be to create another ball of superdense matter that would instantly collide with black hole being used for "transport", and thus resulting in a slightly larger black hole.

On the other hand, if one could harness the power of a black hole, in terms of gravity, in the same way that we harness the nature of electricity ( like in an electric motor) by alternating polarities, the possibilities are limitless. Anti-gravity has supposedly been proven to exist by NASA, to a very small degree.

Until such forces are understood, I can make no real argument for this type of propulsion. However, remain optimistic that, like all forces of nature studied thus far, a useable theory will emrege.

We still don't completly understand wind, and yet that has been a source of energy for thousands of years, perhaps gravity will follow suit, or perhaps not.

Being as powerful a force as it is, I believe gravity may have some potential as a means of propulsion.

Of course, I would never support anything but private research into this possibility.