On this day forty years ago? Yep, good ole Russia in the news

joegrundman · 08-21-08, 06:55 PM

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I will open with the overthrow of the Hawaii in 1893 by the United States.

I am not even bothering to count the Native Indians

Ouch! If I were to include ancient history, England would pale the US in a heartbeat. Lets study cannibalism next.

-S

The rules are : must have been a democratically elected regime that was overthrown. As Scotland was a feudal system, it's annexation by England doesn't count for the purposes of this list, nor the ....ethnic cleansing of the native americans, as it would be considered were it to happen today

SUBMAN1 · 08-21-08, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by joegrundman

The rules are : must have been a democratically elected regime that was overthrown. As Scotland was a feudal system, it's annexation by England doesn't count for the purposes of this list, nor the ....ethnic cleansing of the native americans, as it would be considered were it to happen today

If these are the rules, then you must include military action in these rules too.

-S

joegrundman · 08-21-08, 07:01 PM

Nope: a lead role by intelligence agencies of either side is sufficient

August · 08-21-08, 09:54 PM

Who cares? It's the 40th anniversary of the brutal soviet attack on Czechoslovakia. Playing moral equivalency games does not change that.

joegrundman · 08-21-08, 10:59 PM

It's just a proposed list of overthrown democracies, August, for the benefit of posterity. Sorry if you find it intrudes on your nationalistic self-pleasuring, but please feel free to make a contribution.

August · 08-22-08, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by joegrundman

Sorry if you find it intrudes on your nationalistic self-pleasuring

Nationalistic self-pleasuring?

Have you ever patrolled the iron curtain? I have. Have you ever seen the result of a civilians failed attempt to leave that soviet paradise? I have. Defend those murderers if you want to but some of us know better.

Happy Times · 08-22-08, 07:21 AM

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Sorry if you find it intrudes on your nationalistic self-pleasuring

Nationalistic self-pleasuring?

Have you ever patrolled the iron curtain? I have. Have you ever seen the result of a civilians failed attempt to leave that soviet paradise? I have. Defend those murderers if you want to but some of us know better.

I would like to here more of your time in Germany and those events?

Platapus · 08-22-08, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by joegrundman

The rules are : must have been a democratically elected regime that was overthrown.

Who says those are the rules? Why only democratic countries?

And what defines a "democratically elected regime"?

08-21-08, 07:01 PM	#3
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Nope: a lead role by intelligence agencies of either side is sufficient __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

08-21-08, 09:54 PM	#4
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,216 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Who cares? It's the 40th anniversary of the brutal soviet attack on Czechoslovakia. Playing moral equivalency games does not change that. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

08-21-08, 10:59 PM	#5
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	It's just a proposed list of overthrown democracies, August, for the benefit of posterity. Sorry if you find it intrudes on your nationalistic self-pleasuring, but please feel free to make a contribution. __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill