Domestic Terrorism Threatens Medical Progress

Zachstar · 08-18-08, 10:56 AM

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Tree huggers are getting dangerous. They are all becoming terrorists.

Do you deny these words?

SUBMAN1 · 08-18-08, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

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Tree huggers are getting dangerous. They are all becoming terrorists.

Do you deny these words?

Its the truth lately. Greenpeace included.

Zachstar · 08-18-08, 11:05 AM

So you are saying because I do not support tearing up the environment to extract more oil and coal and think that funds going to R&D I am a terrorist? Is that your line of thought?

Is it 2002 again?

Edit: Why don't you keep your crap towards those who actually deserve it like these wackjobs and Sea Shepherd and related groups..

SUBMAN1 · 08-18-08, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

So you are saying because I do not support tearing up the envionment to extract more oil and coal and think that funds going to R&D I am a terrorist? Is that your line of thought?

Is it 2002 again?

This has nothing to do with you singling me out and insulting me. I see you are trying to change the subject since you screwed up - enough already.

You either have a conversation on the facts, or not. Insulting me is not the way forward. At this point, I've already discounted everything you said.

As they say, you've already lost a conversation the moment the attacks move to the person from the facts. Find another thread.

-S

Zachstar · 08-18-08, 11:08 AM

The subject is about your words.. You choose a news article that mentioned the work of real criminals and decided to use it to try to drag in other environmentalists..

You decided to start this.. You decided to say I and many others are terrorists..

SUBMAN1 · 08-18-08, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

The subject is about your words.. You choose a news article that mentioned the work of real criminals and decided to use it to try to drag in other environmentalists..

You decided to start this.. You decided to say I and many others are terrorists..

This may be hard for you to understand, but your attack has already made me not to want to have any conversation on the subject at hand with you. So at this moment, I will respond to other people, but not you. Thanks. cya.

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DeepIron · 08-18-08, 11:12 AM

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So you are saying because I do not support tearing up the environment to extract more oil and coal and think that funds going to R&D I am a terrorist?

ter·ror·ist n.One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism.
adj.Of or relating to terrorism.

The real question is not about ones personal beliefs, convictions or philosophy. It's more about an individual using or engaging in methods or tactics against other people that would be construed as "terrorist acts". Violence, coercion, instigating fear, etc.

Zachstar · 08-18-08, 11:15 AM

And this attack is a terrorist attack.. I have zero tolerance for these types of cowardly attacks in the name of environmentalism.. They need to be charged and punished to the full extent of the law..

But I also have no respect for those who wish to use it to attack all tree huggers.. And that is the issue here because the OP choose it to be when the words were placed in the topic..

SUBMAN1 · 08-18-08, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron

ter·ror·ist n.One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism.
adj.Of or relating to terrorism.

The real question is not about ones personal beliefs, convictions or philosophy. It's more about an individual using or engaging in methods or tactics against other people that would be construed as "terrorist acts". Violence, coercion, instigating fear, etc.

We've got a bunch of ELF and ALF people over here. Just found some woman as well that they have been looking for for 20 years. She is headed to jail last I heard. Its becoming a common thing to see the above. Not good.

People die when this happens, and these people think that is a message to the rest. Its crazy.

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Zachstar · 08-18-08, 11:22 AM

Even more crazed when their cause is helped by people trying to attach their actions to all environmentalists..

SUBMAN1 · 08-18-08, 11:23 AM

How is this not surprising:

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A PETA spokesman once said that, "Even if a cure for AIDS came from animal experimentation, we'd be against it". PETA publicly claims to be against violence, but the group has long been accused of channeling funds and information to groups like the ALF.

DeepIron · 08-18-08, 11:28 AM

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And this attack is a terrorist attack.. I have zero tolerance for these types of cowardly attacks in the name of environmentalism.. They need to be charged and punished to the full extent of the law..

Tolerance towards anything is one's own but I would certainly agree with those who perpetrate these crimes should be punished.

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People die when this happens, and these people think that is a message to the rest. Its crazy.

I've never understood the need for violence in situations like this. Spiking trees, fire-bombing, threatening people doesn't get the point across very well IMO. It does however, create a bias in the public in general and less tolerance I think. Certainly doesn't get my sympathy for their cause when they act like murderers...

Frame57 · 08-18-08, 11:06 AM

You know I once saw a group of tree huggers surrounding a tree creating a human chain in order to stop a logger from doing his job. The news was there and it made quite a stink on the television. I thought that the logger should have just cut down the tree anyway. Hell, I would have and maybe those pot smoking brats would have learned a lesson. It is one thing to protest, but when stop someone from doing their job, well, then you just get in the way and suffer the consequences for your own stupidity.

08-18-08, 11:05 AM	#3
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	So you are saying because I do not support tearing up the environment to extract more oil and coal and think that funds going to R&D I am a terrorist? Is that your line of thought? Is it 2002 again? Edit: Why don't you keep your crap towards those who actually deserve it like these wackjobs and Sea Shepherd and related groups.. __________________

08-18-08, 11:08 AM	#5
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	The subject is about your words.. You choose a news article that mentioned the work of real criminals and decided to use it to try to drag in other environmentalists.. You decided to start this.. You decided to say I and many others are terrorists.. __________________

08-18-08, 11:15 AM	#8
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	And this attack is a terrorist attack.. I have zero tolerance for these types of cowardly attacks in the name of environmentalism.. They need to be charged and punished to the full extent of the law.. But I also have no respect for those who wish to use it to attack all tree huggers.. And that is the issue here because the OP choose it to be when the words were placed in the topic.. __________________

08-18-08, 11:22 AM	#10
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Even more crazed when their cause is helped by people trying to attach their actions to all environmentalists.. __________________

08-18-08, 11:06 AM	#13
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	You know I once saw a group of tree huggers surrounding a tree creating a human chain in order to stop a logger from doing his job. The news was there and it made quite a stink on the television. I thought that the logger should have just cut down the tree anyway. Hell, I would have and maybe those pot smoking brats would have learned a lesson. It is one thing to protest, but when stop someone from doing their job, well, then you just get in the way and suffer the consequences for your own stupidity.