Bush Orders Military to Deliver Aid to Georgia

Bruno Lotse · 08-16-08, 03:41 PM

According to Deputy Commander of the Russian Army Igor Konashenkov
as of Aug 16th Russian troops "borrowed" from Georgian army
65 tanks, 15 BMP and other armored vehicles.

44 tanks are in a mint condition. They will find their proper use in Russian arsenal.
The rest of Georgian armor is either obsolete or no use for Russian tank forces,
so those vehicles are being "recycled".
Russians made sure that all "recycled" vehicles would never ever contribute to global warming!

http://news.ntv.ru/138258/

American taxpayers, please, keep on supplying new armor to Russian forces!!!
The sooner - the better.

Skybird · 08-17-08, 05:10 AM

(German)

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...572526,00.html

This is telltaling on the confused and seriously distorted state of mind of Saakashvili. It sounds like the stupid babbling of a 5-year old being offered the choice between several things and no not knowing which one to pick. I always perceived him like this, so I doubt it is just an issue of lacking sleep. Trottel.

Meanwhile, the leader of the democratic opposition in Georgia - the one opposition that repeatedly got beaten up by Saakashvilli's police with iron fists and solid sticks when demonstrating against him: why is nobody complaining about that, for a change? - commented on the Georgian decision to go to a state of open war. German media, TV yesterday night and radio today, quoted him with calling the decison of Saakshvilli to attack the Russians a "crime against his own people" for which now the Georgian people have to bleed, and an "evidence of his intellectual incompetence".

Merkel and Medwedew parted without even shaking hands, it was said. I wouldn't shake her hand, too.

A perspective on the next conflict deriving from the Soviet legacy: Crimean peninsula.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...nt/7563623.stm

I personally think that the post-Soviet era of western dominance and Russian obedience is ending, and that we see the beginning of a new diplomatic age between Russia and the West that will be formed by a much more self-confident and stronger Russia. Something like the past 20 years, just with reversed roles, maybe. eventually it could end in a status of greater stability in the east, a stability that nevertheless is enforced and maintained with force. If so, this could eventually reshuffle the cards in Russia's losing confrontation with a.) Islam in the south, and b.) chionese pressure in the south-east. Which again means pressure imposed on both, which again indirectly could eventually effect the West's relations to them as well, may it be that both players need to reshift ressources and attention from the Western playground to the souther-russian one, or may it be demands both adress to the West to actively support them in their match against the Russians "else...".

We should be careful and hesitent to accept that demand. If somebody thinks under the impression of recent events the Russians are our greatest problem, I think he is wrong.

P.S. I think this is the politicians I mentioned above, this time in an exclusive interview with Der Spiegel. He reminds the West that Saakashvilli's rgime is a criminal regime not a bit democratic, that he supresses civil rights and that he supresses media and demonstrations with force, hindering their political activities and proclamation of their opinions in public by declaring states of emergency. He directly compares him to any authoritarian regime there is, and compares him to Putin.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...572496,00.html

Schroeder · 08-17-08, 06:41 AM

@Rockstar

First of all I would like to know what problem you have with females? Didn't you get enough love from you mother?

Second, why should we attack Russia? BOTH sides did their good share in starting this, and Georgia actually brought it on herself. So why attacking Russia (which would be suicidal by the way, just in case you have forgotten about the strengths of the Russian army

)?

Third, you say we only stand up for things worth while for ourselves. Does that mean all of Europe should withdraw their troops from Afghanistan, Iraq, Enduring Freedom etc.?
Why are we in Afghanistan?:hmm: I remember a certain country that was attacked by terrorists. This country is not part of Europe, yet we are there. There are no natural resources to be exploited (except for drugs) nor any other benefits from being there. We are only spending plenty of money and some lives for nothing in return. Strangely enough some citizens of that non European country are blaming us to do nothing that wouldn't give us any advantage...., odd isn't it?

Bruno Lotse · 08-17-08, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schroeder

@Rockstar
Second, why should we attack Russia? BOTH sides did their good share in starting this, and Georgia actually brought it on herself. So why attacking Russia (which would be suicidal by the way, just in case you have forgotten about the strengths of the Russian army

)?

Let's better be friends

Skybird · 08-17-08, 08:55 AM

Right-on-target-comment by Time magazine:

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...832988,00.html

That author speaks my thoughts, and is agreeable factual.

mrbeast · 08-17-08, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Right-on-target-comment by Time magazine:

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...832988,00.html

That author speaks my thoughts, and is agreeable factual.

Good article Skybird

Happy Times · 08-17-08, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruno Lotse

Let's better be friends

It must be hard for you to live in Canada? Here is some Russia Strong pics for you to ease the pain.

Bruno Lotse · 08-17-08, 05:00 PM

Yeah, their leader looks like a MAN
and acts like a MAN.

Happy Times · 08-17-08, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruno Lotse

Yeah, their leader looks like a MAN
and acts like a MAN.

How do you spell Y.M.C.A in cyrillic?:hmm:

08-16-08, 03:41 PM	#1
Bruno Lotse Sonar Guy Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: HMCS Toronto (K 538) Posts: 385 Downloads: 515 Uploads: 0	According to Deputy Commander of the Russian Army Igor Konashenkov as of Aug 16th Russian troops "borrowed" from Georgian army 65 tanks, 15 BMP and other armored vehicles. 44 tanks are in a mint condition. They will find their proper use in Russian arsenal. The rest of Georgian armor is either obsolete or no use for Russian tank forces, so those vehicles are being "recycled". Russians made sure that all "recycled" vehicles would never ever contribute to global warming! http://news.ntv.ru/138258/ American taxpayers, please, keep on supplying new armor to Russian forces!!! The sooner - the better. __________________ Wie einst Lili Marleen. Last edited by Bruno Lotse; 08-17-08 at 05:55 AM.

08-17-08, 05:10 AM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,830 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	(German) http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...572526,00.html This is telltaling on the confused and seriously distorted state of mind of Saakashvili. It sounds like the stupid babbling of a 5-year old being offered the choice between several things and no not knowing which one to pick. I always perceived him like this, so I doubt it is just an issue of lacking sleep. Trottel. Meanwhile, the leader of the democratic opposition in Georgia - the one opposition that repeatedly got beaten up by Saakashvilli's police with iron fists and solid sticks when demonstrating against him: why is nobody complaining about that, for a change? - commented on the Georgian decision to go to a state of open war. German media, TV yesterday night and radio today, quoted him with calling the decison of Saakshvilli to attack the Russians a "crime against his own people" for which now the Georgian people have to bleed, and an "evidence of his intellectual incompetence". Merkel and Medwedew parted without even shaking hands, it was said. I wouldn't shake her hand, too. A perspective on the next conflict deriving from the Soviet legacy: Crimean peninsula. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...nt/7563623.stm I personally think that the post-Soviet era of western dominance and Russian obedience is ending, and that we see the beginning of a new diplomatic age between Russia and the West that will be formed by a much more self-confident and stronger Russia. Something like the past 20 years, just with reversed roles, maybe. eventually it could end in a status of greater stability in the east, a stability that nevertheless is enforced and maintained with force. If so, this could eventually reshuffle the cards in Russia's losing confrontation with a.) Islam in the south, and b.) chionese pressure in the south-east. Which again means pressure imposed on both, which again indirectly could eventually effect the West's relations to them as well, may it be that both players need to reshift ressources and attention from the Western playground to the souther-russian one, or may it be demands both adress to the West to actively support them in their match against the Russians "else...". We should be careful and hesitent to accept that demand. If somebody thinks under the impression of recent events the Russians are our greatest problem, I think he is wrong. P.S. I think this is the politicians I mentioned above, this time in an exclusive interview with Der Spiegel. He reminds the West that Saakashvilli's rgime is a criminal regime not a bit democratic, that he supresses civil rights and that he supresses media and demonstrations with force, hindering their political activities and proclamation of their opinions in public by declaring states of emergency. He directly compares him to any authoritarian regime there is, and compares him to Putin. http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...572496,00.html __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 08-17-08 at 05:29 AM.

08-17-08, 06:41 AM	#3
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	@Rockstar First of all I would like to know what problem you have with females? Didn't you get enough love from you mother? Second, why should we attack Russia? BOTH sides did their good share in starting this, and Georgia actually brought it on herself. So why attacking Russia (which would be suicidal by the way, just in case you have forgotten about the strengths of the Russian army)? Third, you say we only stand up for things worth while for ourselves. Does that mean all of Europe should withdraw their troops from Afghanistan, Iraq, Enduring Freedom etc.? Why are we in Afghanistan?:hmm: I remember a certain country that was attacked by terrorists. This country is not part of Europe, yet we are there. There are no natural resources to be exploited (except for drugs) nor any other benefits from being there. We are only spending plenty of money and some lives for nothing in return. Strangely enough some citizens of that non European country are blaming us to do nothing that wouldn't give us any advantage...., odd isn't it?

08-17-08, 08:55 AM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,830 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Right-on-target-comment by Time magazine: http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...832988,00.html That author speaks my thoughts, and is agreeable factual. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-17-08, 05:00 PM	#8
Bruno Lotse Sonar Guy Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: HMCS Toronto (K 538) Posts: 385 Downloads: 515 Uploads: 0	Yeah, their leader looks like a MAN and acts like a MAN. __________________ Wie einst Lili Marleen.