Every SH3 Modder should switch to SH4 - ATO!!!

urfisch · 08-14-08, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by von hally

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Originally Posted by STEED

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Originally Posted by von hally

what do my fellow kaleuns think.....is it time to let my sh3 slip beneath the waves???

OVER MY STONE COLD DEAD BODY YOU WILL NEVER PRISE SH3 OUT OF MY HAND.................

Long live SH3 Long live GWX.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

ive always felt that way steed.

i take it youve tried sh4.

outwith graphics...i cant see how sh3 could be beaten.

its like an extension of my self now

simple answer is:

sh4 with imported improvements of sh3, would beat it...everything that was mentioned before is also possible in sh4 and even much more!!! thats the point. just open your eyes, dudes. i also avoided SH4 a long time, as SH3 is simply much better gameplay, not to mention that even sh3 stock may have been better than sh4 uboat missions...but:

its in our hands to make the most of it, cause the engine is damn freakin! and i think no one would deny, that SH4-UM at the actual state of SH3 would be the GREATEST sim one would ever have seen!!! any doubts?

:hmm:

von hally · 08-14-08, 01:19 PM

simple answer is:

sh4 with imported improvements of sh3, would beat it...everything that was mentioned before is also possible in sh4 and even much more!!! thats the point. just open your eyes, dudes. i also avoided SH4 a long time, as SH3 is simply much better gameplay, not to mention that even sh3 stock may have been better than sh4 uboat missions...but:

its in our hands to make the most of it, cause the engine is damn freakin! and i think no one would deny, that SH4-UM at the actual state of SH3 would be the GREATEST sim one would ever have seen!!! any doubts?

:hmm:[/quote]

i like your enthusiasm mate.

its comforting to know i probably have a whole new world to find....when sh4 ets the gwx/sh3 modder treatment

Philipp_Thomsen · 08-14-08, 02:20 PM

Most people complain about the SH4 interface... lol... its one of the easiest things to change!

Remember what OLC did with SH3 interface with his GUI?

Its that simple! Its all in the menu_1024.ini (or something like that). We might make it just like SH3, or even better!

In fact, I might do it myself... :hmm:

Remember... SH3 Stock was total crap compared to SH3+all of today's mods. And so is now SH4 Stock... it looks like crap, but stop to think how great it will be once it reaches the level of mods from SH3, it will trully be the best of the both.

Now, a lot of people might think "but we will never have a full atlantic campaign playing as germans", and I reply: We WILL have that, and even more! Just give the modders time to settle down and improve SH4.

If all the copies of SH3 disappeared from the world today, SH4 would be in top form in less then one year. But with SH3 out there, people will stay put, coz its comfy... so, patience, right?

I'm moving on to SH4, not because its better, but because it CAN be better!

See you all there, in some months!

danurve · 08-14-08, 03:18 PM

"Perhaps it's just as well. Who knows what kind of idiot they would have sent you. One of those new found warriors, all wind and smoke."

When IV can be played with that 'Das Boot' feeling that III has, then it can be a great Sim.
Damn freakin.

Wildhawke11 · 08-14-08, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by danurve

"Perhaps it's just as well. Who knows what kind of idiot they would have sent you. One of those new found warriors, all wind and smoke."

When IV can be played with that 'Das Boot' feeling that III has, then it can be a great Sim.
Damn freakin.

As one Dan to another you hit the nail on the head my friend.
When SH4 can offer me the thrill and dangers of a full Atlantic campaign i think that would be the time for me to move over. Till then its the Atlantic and GWX for me.

onelifecrisis · 08-14-08, 03:31 PM

I heard that convoys scatter realistically in SH4, instead of just doing that "weaving" thing they do in SH3. That's the only thing I've ever heard about SH4 that made it sound any better than SH3 to me - unless you count the SH4 graphics which my machine can't run.

Sailor Steve · 08-14-08, 04:41 PM

Well, there's the more realistic crew management system. My computer won't run the graphics either. In both sims there are things that I love about the graphics, but if I played as realistically as I'd like I wouldn't be able to see them anyway.

I agree, and have said more than once, that I believe SH4 will eventually replace SH3 altogether, and this would happen sooner if as the OP said, all modders were to move immediately. But you can't tell people what they have to do. If people want to continue to mod SH3, great. I'm not ready to make the move yet; SH3 still has the more immersive gameplay where u-boats are concerned.

Some day; just not today.

@ Philipp Thomsen: I had no idea it was possible to have SH3's interface in SH4. I love those little officer icons, and my biggest turn-off so far is all the tabs leading everywhere.

vickers03 · 08-14-08, 04:51 PM

i think for fleetboats SH4 is just great, with some mods
of course.
but for u-boats, i don't know, i have the bad feeling some
code (controllers, emblems) where just left out
and some things just doesn't work in SH4 (e.g. the lights
controller for torpedo tubes), but it's these small things
that make SH3 great.
a real SH3 experience in SH4 will be a LOT of work..

08-14-08, 01:19 PM	#2
von hally Commodore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 634 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	simple answer is: sh4 with imported improvements of sh3, would beat it...everything that was mentioned before is also possible in sh4 and even much more!!! thats the point. just open your eyes, dudes. i also avoided SH4 a long time, as SH3 is simply much better gameplay, not to mention that even sh3 stock may have been better than sh4 uboat missions...but: its in our hands to make the most of it, cause the engine is damn freakin! and i think no one would deny, that SH4-UM at the actual state of SH3 would be the GREATEST sim one would ever have seen!!! any doubts? :hmm:[/quote] i like your enthusiasm mate. its comforting to know i probably have a whole new world to find....when sh4 ets the gwx/sh3 modder treatment __________________ May God Have Mercy Upon My Enemies ..... Because I Wont.

08-14-08, 02:20 PM	#3
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Most people complain about the SH4 interface... lol... its one of the easiest things to change! Remember what OLC did with SH3 interface with his GUI? Its that simple! Its all in the menu_1024.ini (or something like that). We might make it just like SH3, or even better! In fact, I might do it myself... :hmm: Remember... SH3 Stock was total crap compared to SH3+all of today's mods. And so is now SH4 Stock... it looks like crap, but stop to think how great it will be once it reaches the level of mods from SH3, it will trully be the best of the both. Now, a lot of people might think "but we will never have a full atlantic campaign playing as germans", and I reply: We WILL have that, and even more! Just give the modders time to settle down and improve SH4. If all the copies of SH3 disappeared from the world today, SH4 would be in top form in less then one year. But with SH3 out there, people will stay put, coz its comfy... so, patience, right? I'm moving on to SH4, not because its better, but because it CAN be better! See you all there, in some months! __________________ To each his own

08-14-08, 03:18 PM	#4
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	"Perhaps it's just as well. Who knows what kind of idiot they would have sent you. One of those new found warriors, all wind and smoke." When IV can be played with that 'Das Boot' feeling that III has, then it can be a great Sim. Damn freakin. __________________

08-14-08, 03:31 PM	#6
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	I heard that convoys scatter realistically in SH4, instead of just doing that "weaving" thing they do in SH3. That's the only thing I've ever heard about SH4 that made it sound any better than SH3 to me - unless you count the SH4 graphics which my machine can't run. __________________ Freedom of speech - priceless. For everything else there's Mastercard.

08-14-08, 04:41 PM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Well, there's the more realistic crew management system. My computer won't run the graphics either. In both sims there are things that I love about the graphics, but if I played as realistically as I'd like I wouldn't be able to see them anyway. I agree, and have said more than once, that I believe SH4 will eventually replace SH3 altogether, and this would happen sooner if as the OP said, all modders were to move immediately. But you can't tell people what they have to do. If people want to continue to mod SH3, great. I'm not ready to make the move yet; SH3 still has the more immersive gameplay where u-boats are concerned. Some day; just not today. @ Philipp Thomsen: I had no idea it was possible to have SH3's interface in SH4. I love those little officer icons, and my biggest turn-off so far is all the tabs leading everywhere. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-14-08, 04:51 PM	#8
vickers03 Pooped from posting Join Date: May 2007 Location: germany Posts: 999 Downloads: 712 Uploads: 37	i think for fleetboats SH4 is just great, with some mods of course. but for u-boats, i don't know, i have the bad feeling some code (controllers, emblems) where just left out and some things just doesn't work in SH4 (e.g. the lights controller for torpedo tubes), but it's these small things that make SH3 great. a real SH3 experience in SH4 will be a LOT of work..