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Von Spee's squadron certainly posed a legitimate and serious security threat
in the Pacific and the Indian Oceans. Its interesting to observe that He had succesfully executed the signal ruse at valparaiso. And could have escaped cleanly back to Germany if he had bypassed the falklands. That in and of itself wouldve been a tremendous victory, and wouldve further changed the balance in the north sea. it was nearer run than that of course, had all his ships arrived in formation he may have taken the british cruisers while they were still coaling and the advantage wouldve been his, his misfortune to misinterperet what the rising smoke actually meant, further, had he recognized Canopus for what it was his men might even have sailed home victors of sorts. just a speculation. M |
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Von Spee represents a whole bunch of scenarios I've always wanted to game on the tabletop; and you mention several of the reasons why.
1) I wanted to game Coronel with Canopus present, just to find out if the speculations were true (and they probably were). Of course it would have to be realistic: For Spee the conditions are daylight, while for Craddock it's a night fight. 2) I wanted to game Coronel in broad daylight and calm seas, with and without Canopus. 3) What indeed if Spee had had the prescience to attack Beatty's battlecruisers while they were coaling. Of course if Spee had resisted the temptation to raid the Falklands he would have been sailing home safely to Germany while the British hunted fruitlessly in the Pacific. As for the "rising smoke", Spee also had the disadvantage of not being there himself - he only had the panicked report of his second-in-command after the latter had been shelled by Canopus. "Tripod masts! Heavy shells!"
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thats uhm Sturdee steve.:rotfl: |
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Dang! Posting off the top of my head! Of course it was Doveton Sturdee. I'm not going to change it now, because that would be cheating.
Let's see if anybody else reads that far and corrects me without looking to see you've already done so. :rotfl:
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VCR set TarJak!
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Well, when I take time to look things up it takes me forever and a day to actually write something. When I just jump in and start typing I'm just like the next...well, no, actually I'm much worse than the next guy.
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