Mines and minelaying with your U-boat

FIREWALL · 08-06-08, 12:32 PM

IIRC Sergbutto or Rubini made a mine laying mod for SH3 some years back that used stern tubes.

I might have it in my burned cd files. Will post if I can find it.

Check their two sites or pm them.

USS Sea Tiger · 08-25-08, 03:58 AM

I have had a little success.

No, not in makin gthe mine torps, but in torps as mines.

I set their speed to.25, set to magnetic (contact is a joke and never worked yet) a depth greater than my own hull (so they shoot out the bottom center mine chutes) , and let them go one at a time.

I reset the magnetic mine range as suggested,

and thay them about 12000 yards in front of a convoy.

the results were interesting, 1 damaged 1 sunk in a 18 mine string.

u-168 · 08-27-08, 07:01 PM

During world war 2 i think this is true but there was a u-boat that could lay mines out of like down facing torpedo tubes.I think they held about 5 mines in one tube it would be good if we could have that u-boat on the game to let the mines out that way

i cannot find a link to show you this sub but it was an the discovery channel and i cant find it now lol.

FIREWALL · 08-27-08, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

IIRC Sergbutto or Rubini made a mine laying mod for SH3 some years back that used stern tubes.

I might have it in my burned cd files. Will post if I can find it.

Check their two sites or pm them.

bump

FIREWALL · 11-14-08, 10:41 AM

Will it go "BOOM" if anything hits it ?

Alex · 11-14-08, 12:34 PM

Best of luck, Mr Dietrich.

11-14-08, 08:14 PM

1st off?

Create a new dat, sim, and zone file to work with.
Call it test.dat or whatever.
Make sure it's cloned properly and delete the stuff you don't need.
Then rename EVERYTHING!
Even the TGA files!!
That way you do not mess with standard SH3 stuff.

DO NOT USE the PROPPELER stuff!
That's why you see rotation!!!

You should use the main body of the SH_Torp and delete all the other stuff.
(in the new files of course!!)

NEVER use a prop object unless you delete the prop in the sim file!!
Unless you want it to rotate.

Sledgehammer427 · 11-15-08, 05:16 PM

i was going to say, is there a type XB ready?

TorpedoMo · 01-09-09, 05:07 PM

You had any success in proceeding this mod?

Vermin · 01-09-09, 11:16 PM

So if you set the arming distance to "0", will it detonate as soon as it is laid?

What about if the arming distance is say 1m but the the mine moves so slowly it still takes 10-15 minutes to get there?

Otherwise, can the arming distance be reduced to the absolute minimum so with a 10-15 minute arming period, the speed of the mine can still be set as close to 0 as possible?

For single player especially, I would not mind waiting a bit longer for the mines to arm.

Would TMB ground mines be easier to mod? 1) There is no cable. 2) If you can make them hit the bottom and stop but not detonate (maybe possible with magnetic or acoustic detonators?) there is no problem with drift and minelaying in very shallow water/harbours becomes an option.

Just thoughts. Great work so far and I look forward to whatever comes out!

Regards

Vermin

tater · 01-12-09, 06:36 PM

What distance do torpedoes eject to when fired?

Seems liek the arming distance can be dropped to near zero, mine speed 0.001, and the laying sub will simply need to have steerageway to escape.

Vermin · 01-13-09, 07:29 AM

The TMB:

Here is another though... set the max range of the "torpedo" to 400m

"Fire" from the tubes with a miniscule velocity (you use o.6 kn).

The torpedoe runs out of "steam" after 400m, after about 15+ minutes of travel, fully armed and then sinks at the normal sink rate to the bottom (witch is probably about 25m max for a ground mine).

The torpedoe then sits on the bottom until it is detonated by a passing ship.

Or does the torpedo just explode (even with an influence fuse) or disappear when it hits the seabed?

Still hoping!

Regards

Vermin

Task Force · 11-21-08, 03:41 PM

This looks veary good.

This was one of the big things this game was missing.

Letum · 12-16-08, 10:13 AM

Excelent progress. Good luck getting the rest done.

08-06-08, 12:32 PM	#1
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	IIRC Sergbutto or Rubini made a mine laying mod for SH3 some years back that used stern tubes. I might have it in my burned cd files. Will post if I can find it. Check their two sites or pm them. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

08-25-08, 03:58 AM	#2
USS Sea Tiger XO Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 425 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Torps and Mines I have had a little success. No, not in makin gthe mine torps, but in torps as mines. I set their speed to.25, set to magnetic (contact is a joke and never worked yet) a depth greater than my own hull (so they shoot out the bottom center mine chutes) , and let them go one at a time. I reset the magnetic mine range as suggested, and thay them about 12000 yards in front of a convoy. the results were interesting, 1 damaged 1 sunk in a 18 mine string. Last edited by USS Sea Tiger; 08-25-08 at 04:01 AM. Reason: spelling

08-27-08, 07:01 PM	#3
u-168 Planesman Join Date: May 2007 Location: united kingdom Posts: 182 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	During world war 2 i think this is true but there was a u-boat that could lay mines out of like down facing torpedo tubes.I think they held about 5 mines in one tube it would be good if we could have that u-boat on the game to let the mines out that wayi cannot find a link to show you this sub but it was an the discovery channel and i cant find it now lol. __________________ U-168 Arctic wolf On The Prowl ..- \| \| \| \| \| .- .-. -.-. - .. -.-. \| .-- --- .-.. ..-. \| --- -. \| - .... . \| .--. .-. --- .-- .-.. http://www.scoutnet.nl/~inter/morse/morseform.html Commander Of The Vladimir Lenin Akula-Typhoon Class Ballistic Missile Submarine

11-14-08, 10:41 AM	#5
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Will it go "BOOM" if anything hits it ? __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

11-14-08, 12:34 PM	#6
Alex Dominant Wolf Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,143 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Best of luck, Mr Dietrich. __________________

11-14-08, 08:14 PM	#7
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	1st off? Create a new dat, sim, and zone file to work with. Call it test.dat or whatever. Make sure it's cloned properly and delete the stuff you don't need. Then rename EVERYTHING! Even the TGA files!! That way you do not mess with standard SH3 stuff. DO NOT USE the PROPPELER stuff! That's why you see rotation!!! You should use the main body of the SH_Torp and delete all the other stuff. (in the new files of course!!) NEVER use a prop object unless you delete the prop in the sim file!! Unless you want it to rotate.

11-15-08, 05:16 PM	#8
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	i was going to say, is there a type XB ready? __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

01-09-09, 05:07 PM	#9
TorpedoMo Helmsman Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 108 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	You had any success in proceeding this mod?

01-09-09, 11:16 PM	#10
Vermin Helmsman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 106 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	So if you set the arming distance to "0", will it detonate as soon as it is laid? What about if the arming distance is say 1m but the the mine moves so slowly it still takes 10-15 minutes to get there? Otherwise, can the arming distance be reduced to the absolute minimum so with a 10-15 minute arming period, the speed of the mine can still be set as close to 0 as possible? For single player especially, I would not mind waiting a bit longer for the mines to arm. Would TMB ground mines be easier to mod? 1) There is no cable. 2) If you can make them hit the bottom and stop but not detonate (maybe possible with magnetic or acoustic detonators?) there is no problem with drift and minelaying in very shallow water/harbours becomes an option. Just thoughts. Great work so far and I look forward to whatever comes out! Regards Vermin

01-12-09, 06:36 PM	#11
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	What distance do torpedoes eject to when fired? Seems liek the arming distance can be dropped to near zero, mine speed 0.001, and the laying sub will simply need to have steerageway to escape.

01-13-09, 07:29 AM	#12
Vermin Helmsman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 106 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	The TMB: Here is another though... set the max range of the "torpedo" to 400m "Fire" from the tubes with a miniscule velocity (you use o.6 kn). The torpedoe runs out of "steam" after 400m, after about 15+ minutes of travel, fully armed and then sinks at the normal sink rate to the bottom (witch is probably about 25m max for a ground mine). The torpedoe then sits on the bottom until it is detonated by a passing ship. Or does the torpedo just explode (even with an influence fuse) or disappear when it hits the seabed? Still hoping! Regards Vermin

11-21-08, 03:41 PM	#13
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	This looks veary good. This was one of the big things this game was missing. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time" Last edited by Task Force; 11-21-08 at 03:42 PM.

12-16-08, 10:13 AM	#14
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Excelent progress. Good luck getting the rest done. __________________