[WIP] König Bismarck

[ivank]

Originally Posted by W4lt3r

That's some odd bismarck. Are you talking about the H39-class project battleship? Or even the heavier H44-class project battleship, tho both of them were only paper ships, at least with GMX They're in SH3..

But yeah, those are 2 damn big ships. Could easily outpower a yamato with those, no? :hmm:

the great H44-class, the H44 had 22'' guns but i thought that might be a bit too strong for the gun, at a certain point that much power is excessive, i mean nothing can even dent you, thats boring, i thought 17.75 would be better strong yet not too strong still ofters a challege

[ivank]

so anyone able to answer my questions?

[ubootcomrade]

Your making a H-44 battleship? , You sir, have made a new best friend

[Raptor1]

The H-44 design had 20" guns (Much like the Super Yamato, which had 20.1" guns), but I find that it would be highly impractical to have guns that size on a ship, for the hull to be able to take the pressure it would have to be enormous, I do believe there wasn't a drydock big enough in the whole world to accommodate it and if there was the ship would be a sitting duck for air attacks anyway...

In fact, Hitler argued for a 20"-gunned Battleship from the beginning, but his naval staff convinced him it would be impractical, which resulted in the 16"-armed H-39 class (Which would probably have been a great Battleship, on par with the Iowa and Lion classes), but of course his huge gun mania continued until they designed the H-44...

Anyway, looking forward to seeing it anyway

[AntEater]

First of all, "König Bismarck" sounds really dumb.
Bismarck was a Chancellor, in british terms, a prime minister, not a king.
I know it is an analogy to the Königstiger tank, but Königstiger is the german word for Bengal tiger, so it is an animal. The "king" does not mean "king size".

Also, the H Class had only one change of being realized, that was in its original form.
A 16 inch armed diesel driven raider battleship with some innovative features and some no brainers like installing the aircraft hanger (with avgas tanks) near the rear turret barbette.
H-44 and the preceding designs were to be completed "after final victory", that means after Germany somehow managed to defeat not only Britain, but also the USSR and the US. Maybe they were meant for the final showdown with Japan!
So that makes a H-44 about as likely as the sea turning into chocolate.
I have my suspicion that designs like H 44 had more to do with the general war situation. A lot of engineers worked in the Navy surface ship design bureaus that were not involved in U-Boats essentially had nothing to do. According to the mobilization construction program, no new vessels above destroyer size were to be constructed. And even these destroyers and smaller vessels were evolutionary, not revolutionary designs gradually improved by the yards themselves, except for the almost completed diesel destroyer Z 51.
So all those engineers were pretty much waiting for their call to the east front if they did not keep themselves busy.
So they kept churning out plans not only for mega battleships but also for practically every type of warship until almost the last day.

[ivank]

Originally Posted by AntEater

First of all, "König Bismarck" sounds really dumb.
Bismarck was a Chancellor, in british terms, a prime minister, not a king.
I know it is an analogy to the Königstiger tank, but Königstiger is the german word for Bengal tiger, so it is an animal. The "king" does not mean "king size".

Also, the H Class had only one change of being realized, that was in its original form.
A 16 inch armed diesel driven raider battleship with some innovative features and some no brainers like installing the aircraft hanger (with avgas tanks) near the rear turret barbette.
H-44 and the preceding designs were to be completed "after final victory", that means after Germany somehow managed to defeat not only Britain, but also the USSR and the US. Maybe they were meant for the final showdown with Japan!
So that makes a H-44 about as likely as the sea turning into chocolate.
I have my suspicion that designs like H 44 had more to do with the general war situation. A lot of engineers worked in the Navy surface ship design bureaus that were not involved in U-Boats essentially had nothing to do. According to the mobilization construction program, no new vessels above destroyer size were to be constructed. And even these destroyers and smaller vessels were evolutionary, not revolutionary designs gradually improved by the yards themselves, except for the almost completed diesel destroyer Z 51.
So all those engineers were pretty much waiting for their call to the east front if they did not keep themselves busy.
So they kept churning out plans not only for mega battleships but also for practically every type of warship until almost the last day.

the Konig Bismarck is a name i gave to it as a sign of power. i know Bismarck was a chancellor. its just a name. if you want when i release it you can change the name.

[ubootcomrade]

I know that König Bismarck sounds like a cool name, but realisticaly if it was built it would have most likely been bestowed with a name like 'Germania' or 'Hindenburg' due to its obvious prestige and massive size. Just a suggestion but i like the name König Bismarck as well

[ivank]

Originally Posted by ubootcomrade

Your making a H-44 battleship? , You sir, have made a new best friend

thank you.