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Old 07-25-08, 11:03 PM   #16
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The reason is that I think the renown system in SH3 stinks, it has nothing to do with reality. Uboat commanders didn't have to pay for upgrades I remember the good old Aces of the Deep, you were offered a bigger boat based on good results, which IS realistic. You were offered new improved equipment when available, only resulting in more time in port to install it. Also very realistic.
AOD also had 'points'. They never explained what they were there for, but you could see them after every patrol.

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Anyway, I just want to get rid of it. And since I probably can't do that the other solution would be to put in a million renown, and I can upgrade and change boats when I want to do so
Either that or play the NYGM Tonnage War supermod. It does exactly what you want - no renown, automatic upgrades, the whole works.
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Old 07-25-08, 11:56 PM   #17
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But.. that's... CHEATING !!!
Depending...

When we start a career in 1943 I don't understand why we have only 1500 renown.
We can't buy anything and we are forced to fight with a weak material against a very strong enemy...
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Old 07-26-08, 01:37 AM   #18
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But.. that's... CHEATING !!!
Depending...

When we start a career in 1943 I don't understand why we have only 1500 renown.
We can't buy anything and we are forced to fight with a weak material against a very strong enemy...
Because you are a brand new captain. Nobody knows you. You haven't proven yourself. When you start later in the war you get some of the good stuff that had to be earned a year or two earlier.
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Old 07-26-08, 01:53 AM   #19
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Of course, but a new captain begining in 1943 have not an U-Boot and material of 1939 !
He have the equipment and torpedos of 1943.
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Old 07-26-08, 04:28 AM   #20
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I thought the ultimate way to get unlimited renown was to enter Kptlt. Balz as your name. It's so effective that when you come home from work there is a band playing on your porch and you get medals.
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Old 07-26-08, 06:19 AM   #21
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Of course, but a new captain begining in 1943 have not an U-Boot and material of 1939 !
He have the equipment and torpedos of 1943.
Your issued with the standard equipment you would reasonably expect a boat at that time to be fitted with upon launching.

The more advanced/up to date kit has to be purchased with renown.

There's no such thing as a free lunch.

Not during wartime anyway
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Old 07-26-08, 07:51 AM   #22
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Default renown

What I have done is to edit the config files to change the renown required for equipment upgrade (but not crew upgrade) to zero. That way I can get the new equipment when needed. As pointed out earlier, some of the equipment is worthless and some priceless.
I use SH3CMDR to upgrade my crew as I see fit. I sometimes will upgrade their "experience" in the crew config file also.
I then use the renown gained to mark the progress in my career.
Next I go out and usually get sunk.
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Old 07-26-08, 08:11 AM   #23
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Hmmm.... Renown? :hmm:

I interpret this as the influence I gain as I sink more Allied ships.

The more renown, I interpret that as more influence I exert on BdU, the Kreigsmarine and der Fuhrer.

The less renown, I interpret that, especially in late-war/late-career as having used up all your favors and contacts in getting the best crew and equipment for your u-boat.
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Old 07-26-08, 09:53 AM   #24
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What?? How?? I didn't know you could do that! OMG!

Wait a minute... oh yes, I remember the first day I bought SH3 and looked at game FAQ's for hints and tricks. In fact this is ..I think.. the number one answer on almost all those cheat websites.

I think as a beginner Kaluen it helped to add a lil' extra renown here and there. But as the seasons wear on and more salt is applied, it seems to pile up all on its own. Without out any assistance from file tampering. :hmm:

Hey that doesn't mean that your post wasn't informative to someone. But be prepared to take a little ribbing every now and then.
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Old 07-26-08, 10:56 AM   #25
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Well it was informative to at least one, so his post is as good as any other in here. That said, people have to accept those comments too. After all the game is 3-4 years old...and it doesn't like Vista

Cheat websites? Never heard of them I really don't want to cheat. But when I started a new career in the canoe I skipped the naval academy, and only got 500 renown. You don't exactly get rich in GWX from the start, and I didn't want to jump around in a type II for two years before I could afford a VIIB, would have to start a new career.

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Either that or play the NYGM Tonnage War supermod. It does exactly what you want - no renown, automatic upgrades, the whole works.
Okay thanks, but very easy to change the numbers in that file, problem solved.
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Old 07-27-08, 04:12 PM   #26
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Well it was informative to at least one, so his post is as good as any other in here. That said, people have to accept those comments too. After all the game is 3-4 years old...and it doesn't like Vista

Cheat websites? Never heard of them I really don't want to cheat. But when I started a new career in the canoe I skipped the naval academy, and only got 500 renown. You don't exactly get rich in GWX from the start, and I didn't want to jump around in a type II for two years before I could afford a VIIB, would have to start a new career.

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Either that or play the NYGM Tonnage War supermod. It does exactly what you want - no renown, automatic upgrades, the whole works.
Okay thanks, but very easy to change the numbers in that file, problem solved.
I run it on a Vista machine (32-bit) with few, if any, problems. The only times that I've had CTDs where when I accidently did one of the known SH 3 no-nos; saved while submerged, etc. or installed conflicting mods or installed a mod which had an error it.

I think that the premise of having to buy equipment upgrades is kind of flawed. It seems to me that boats would be retrofiited with the latest equipment when it became available. If I was to "redo" the game, you would only need renown to purchase a "better" boat, like in real life: successful commanders were often rewarded by being given command of larger boats.

As far as cheating goes I find that you only end up cheating yourself as you rob yourself of the sense that you've really accomplished something when you sink a really nice target. Sinking the Hood, etc. doesn't mean as much if you've played around with the settings to give yourself an advantage.
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