American propaganda?

[Frame57]

Propaganda is everywhere. from the toothpaste and viagra commercials, to political and military ads etc.. etc... The focus is to play on the masses or Individual desires or fansatsies. The majority of professionals who get payed big conultant bucks from the people who make propaganda, are the head shrinkers. The basic concept to motivate people will always come from two things: Pleasure or fear. The miltary ads never showed me that I would be cleaning the toilets and messcooking for the first 90 days when I reported to my first fast attack. They never show times when you are up for a straight 48 hours because the hydraulic system failed and you are stuck without steering and diving ability. They only show the glory of something. But not the reality.

[AntEater]

Funny is in the 1950s they appealed to male instincts while today they appeal to selfless sacrifice? And I thought we lived in a materalistic time!

Ok, I was never a specific three doors down fan, but they were one the better side of the usual radio junk. Not anymore....

[Blacklight]

Compare army spots as had been broadcasted from the mid-90s to 2000, 2001, and compare them to the asthetic introduced and visualised by Leni Riefenstahl. It says so much, sicne the parrallels are so stunning. That the movie Starship Troopers was commercially not too succesful in north America (at least I read that), probably comes from that Verhoeven made heavy mockery of this visual symbolism and heroic transfiguration. for simple minds believing in such pictures and poses, the movie must have equalled a personal attack.
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The reason that movie didn't do well was because it was utter crap. They took a CLASSIC and fantastic science fiction book written by a great author, just read the description on the back of the book without actually READING the book, and they wrote the script from that.
Starship Troopers was one of my favorite sci-fi books when I was younger and to see the way they raped this imaginitive piece of literature astounded me. The story wasn't the same at all and they even changed the sex of one of the characters to fit in a naked shower scene to show some T & A.
It would have been nice if they actually took the time to.... maybe... READ the book before making the movie out of it. That should be a REQUIREMENT if you're going to make a movie out of a famous book !

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

It would have been nice if they actually took the time to.... maybe... READ the book before making the movie out of it. That should be a REQUIREMENT if you're going to make a movie out of a famous book !

One of my fantasies, well at least ones I can discuss on a public board, would be that if I won a mega lottery I would like to open up a movie production company where we would take classic pieces of literature and faithfully portray them on the screen as the author intended. I too am sick of movies bastardizing books.

Ok that fantasy will never happen, but at least it is more noble than my fantasy involving Sandra Bullock, a can of 10W40 oil and a handful of granola...

Oh did I actually type that or was I just thinkin that?

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Platapus

1) One of my fantasies, well at least ones I can discuss on a public board, would be that if I won a mega lottery I would like to open up a movie production company where we would take classic pieces of literature and faithfully portray them on the screen as the author intended. I too am sick of movies bastardizing books.

2)Ok that fantasy will never happen, but at least it is more noble than my fantasy involving Sandra Bullock, a can of 10W40 oil and a handful of granola...

Oh did I actually type that or was I just thinkin that?

1) Maybe not such a fantasy. If you made movies that were relatively faithful to good books or, dare I dream, historical events I would probably see them 3 million times apiece. Not a bad start at the box office, eh?

2) That IS a fantasy. I would never let you near MY Sandra:rotfl:

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

It would have been nice if they actually took the time to.... maybe... READ the book before making the movie out of it. That should be a REQUIREMENT if you're going to make a movie out of a famous book !

Tell that to the producers of every version of The Man In The Iron Mask ever made. Not one movie exists that actually follows the grim, dark story in the book.

It would be nice to see movies made from the books, but it only happens rarely.

[Enigma]

This Wiki snippet about Top Gun kinda goes along with our conversation....(bold emphasis mine)

Top Gun went on to break further records in the then still-developing home video market. Backed by a massive $8 million marketing campaign including a Top Gun-themed Pepsi commercial, the advanced demand was such that the film became the best-selling videocassette in the industry's history on pre-orders alone. Top Gun's home video success was again reflected by strong DVD sales, which were furthered by a special-edition release in 2004. Bomber jacket sales increased and Ray-Ban Aviator sunglasses jumped 40%, due to their use by characters in the film.[13] The movie also boosted Air Force and Navy recruitment. This was evident in the fact that the Navy used its success by having recruitment booths in some theaters to lure enthusiastic patrons.[14] Despite the fact that they used the film as an informal marketing tool, real Navy fighter pilots that saw it ridiculed the film, citing numerous inaccuracies. Several said that if they had done any of the things that the main character did, e.g., refusing to land when low on fuel, flying at high speed by air control towers, they would have faced a court-martial and prison time and at the very least, probably would have been kicked out of the Navy.

[Frame57]

Sandra Bullock I get. The oil might I suggest a water soluble one. GRANOLA???:hmm: