getting gunners to do something

Penelope_Grey · 06-30-08, 06:40 AM

You got very lucky! I'm guessing it was the Stern Quarters that took the worst of that... had the bomb landed a little further back, you may have found one, or both of your diesel engines out of commission. Believe me... I know!

aj906 · 06-30-08, 06:45 AM

many thanks for the info, but just two questions:

how do I give the "fire at will" command and when I hit ESC, how can I reset the commands?

It's okay to laugh - I have trouble with your average toaster, let alone a computer!

Sensekhmet · 06-30-08, 07:39 AM

Penelope, it was lucky. The quarters were empty as the crew were on damage control duty (I tend to leave them there in enemy waters).

Sailor Steve · 06-30-08, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aj906

many thanks for the info, but just two questions:

how do I give the "fire at will" command and when I hit ESC, how can I reset the commands?

It's okay to laugh - I have trouble with your average toaster, let alone a computer!

Click on the Watch Officer icon. Click on the Flak Gun icon. Click on the Fire At Will icon. Passing the cursor over them will tell you which is which.

And I'm not laughing - I've been known to be outsmarted by the ocassional door.

papa_smurf · 06-30-08, 01:02 PM

I've had this happen to me on several patrols, where my flak gunner would just stand there and not shoot at incoming aircraft

. All this despite that my Watch Officer is on the bridge, and the firing commands are set to fire at will at incoming aircraft.

danurve · 06-30-08, 01:45 PM

Sleeping Gunner Bug

I have found the only practical way to avoid this is cycle through from the bridge to the gunner back to the bridge to the next gunner back to the bridge ect.
F4 - T - F4 - G - F4 ect.
At least twice to be sure.

Lzs von swe · 06-30-08, 05:32 PM

This is the only way to treat sleeping Flack gunners
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=377

Penelope_Grey · 06-30-08, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danurve

Sleeping Gunner Bug

I have found the only practical way to avoid this is cycle through from the bridge to the gunner back to the bridge to the next gunner back to the bridge ect.
F4 - T - F4 - G - F4 ect.
At least twice to be sure.

Thats too slow. Especially with a plane bearing down on you full speed ahead, firing a single shot from each gun does the same job and only once is required. Guarantee.

Of course, LVS has a good suggestion too! LOL

Sailor Steve · 06-30-08, 09:58 PM

Funny thing - I've never had a problem with my flak gunners.

That's probably because anytime the watch announces a plane I instictively reach for the 'C' key.:rotfl:

rls669 · 06-30-08, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Thats too slow. Especially with a plane bearing down on you full speed ahead, firing a single shot from each gun does the same job and only once is required.

Too slow? I can hit f-f4-t-f4-g-f4 in less than a second. Don't even have to think about it anymore :p

nirwana · 07-01-08, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aj906

and when I hit ESC, how can I reset the commands?

afaic noone answered to it yet

esc -> settings (1st line) -> reset to standard settings (below the gamesettings line)

havnt played the english version for a while but it should be a close translation to what i have in my localized version.

Wreford-Brown · 07-04-08, 06:09 PM

I've also found something odd with the flak gunners:

If I have an experienced and qualified Watch Officer, man the flak guns with ordinary sailors and the bar above the flak guns is full (mainly due to the WO), they still will not fire. If I man the flak guns myself they will not even move from the stowed position.

If I man the guns with a mixture of sailors and POs then the guns will fire (and I can man them myself).

I have therefore assumed that each flak gun requires a certain amount of experience to allow it to fire, and the extra experience of the POs compared to ordinary sailors tips the balance and allows them to fire (or be fired).

Has anyone else noticed this?

predavolk · 07-04-08, 06:27 PM

I just upgraded the heavy flak guns on my IXB to the quad 20 mount (Jan '43). Unfortunately, I can't access the light flak guns now, nor can I properly aim the quad. I just get to see "inside" one of the gunners. I can actually see his teeth- gross! Any suggestions? I've tried cycling the men on and off the station, hitting F11 multiple times, diving and resurfacing, etc. I haven't run into any air trouble (and generally dive if I do), but I'd naturally like to resolve this if possible.

GWX2.1, 16K mod, red contact line mod, and that's it I think.

Wreford-Brown · 07-05-08, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by predavolk

I just upgraded the heavy flak guns on my IXB to the quad 20 mount (Jan '43). Unfortunately, I can't access the light flak guns now, nor can I properly aim the quad. I just get to see "inside" one of the gunners. I can actually see his teeth- gross! Any suggestions? I've tried cycling the men on and off the station, hitting F11 multiple times, diving and resurfacing, etc. I haven't run into any air trouble (and generally dive if I do), but I'd naturally like to resolve this if possible.

GWX2.1, 16K mod, red contact line mod, and that's it I think.

What crewmen are you using to man the flak guns? Try changing some of the sailors for WOs (regardless of their qualifications) and see if it helps.

06-30-08, 06:40 AM	#1
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You got very lucky! I'm guessing it was the Stern Quarters that took the worst of that... had the bomb landed a little further back, you may have found one, or both of your diesel engines out of commission. Believe me... I know! __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

06-30-08, 01:02 PM	#5
papa_smurf Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2,851 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	I've had this happen to me on several patrols, where my flak gunner would just stand there and not shoot at incoming aircraft . All this despite that my Watch Officer is on the bridge, and the firing commands are set to fire at will at incoming aircraft. __________________

06-30-08, 01:45 PM	#6
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	Sleeping Gunner Bug I have found the only practical way to avoid this is cycle through from the bridge to the gunner back to the bridge to the next gunner back to the bridge ect. F4 - T - F4 - G - F4 ect. At least twice to be sure. __________________

06-30-08, 05:32 PM	#7
Lzs von swe Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norrkoping, Sweden Posts: 1,074 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	This is the only way to treat sleeping Flack gunners http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=377 __________________

06-30-08, 09:58 PM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Funny thing - I've never had a problem with my flak gunners. That's probably because anytime the watch announces a plane I instictively reach for the 'C' key.:rotfl: __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-30-08, 06:45 AM	#2
aj906 Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 107 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	many thanks for the info, but just two questions: how do I give the "fire at will" command and when I hit ESC, how can I reset the commands? It's okay to laugh - I have trouble with your average toaster, let alone a computer!

06-30-08, 07:39 AM	#3
Sensekhmet Loader Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 89 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Penelope, it was lucky. The quarters were empty as the crew were on damage control duty (I tend to leave them there in enemy waters).

07-04-08, 06:09 PM	#12
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	I've also found something odd with the flak gunners: If I have an experienced and qualified Watch Officer, man the flak guns with ordinary sailors and the bar above the flak guns is full (mainly due to the WO), they still will not fire. If I man the flak guns myself they will not even move from the stowed position. If I man the guns with a mixture of sailors and POs then the guns will fire (and I can man them myself). I have therefore assumed that each flak gun requires a certain amount of experience to allow it to fire, and the extra experience of the POs compared to ordinary sailors tips the balance and allows them to fire (or be fired). Has anyone else noticed this? __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

07-04-08, 06:27 PM	#13
predavolk Weps Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 369 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I just upgraded the heavy flak guns on my IXB to the quad 20 mount (Jan '43). Unfortunately, I can't access the light flak guns now, nor can I properly aim the quad. I just get to see "inside" one of the gunners. I can actually see his teeth- gross! Any suggestions? I've tried cycling the men on and off the station, hitting F11 multiple times, diving and resurfacing, etc. I haven't run into any air trouble (and generally dive if I do), but I'd naturally like to resolve this if possible. GWX2.1, 16K mod, red contact line mod, and that's it I think.