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Old 06-24-08, 10:28 PM   #1
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Aye! And i learned the hardest way. I play with full realism cept for one thing which is btw the most cheating thing of all: Map contact updates. Because i imagine someone else writing on the map while i sight or take decisions. Ultimately i took a bad one when i thought it would be faster to periscope from 180m if i blew the tanks and ordered periscope at 20meters. This has worked before but i was stationary or silent running at 1 knot. Right i was, right all the way up to the surface where the angry destroyer awaited me (my idea was to periscope and take a snap shot at the merchants in the convoy before the destroyer could stop me and then submerge again).

On a historical note i know for a fact U-Boat commanders almost NEVER were stationary, can you confirm that please? Was the trouble they had keeping depth without the water flowing through the diving planes and the increased submerging times the only reason for it?
I don't have this problem in GWX 2.1. I also noted the periscope depth (for my IXB) varies accordingly to the weather ie water conditions. My opinion is while it's natural when a captain orders a depth he shouldn't personally worry about corrections (his crew should do that) i also think a stationary submarine should have trouble maintaining depth if that's what happened in real life, "not so long ago".
I must also say I've never commanded a IXB before dispite all the time I've been on and off the naval sims. Maybe it's just this boat, due to it's added weight?
Educate me please. Thanks in advance!
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Old 06-25-08, 05:02 AM   #2
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Aye! And i learned the hardest way. I play with full realism cept for one thing which is btw the most cheating thing of all: Map contact updates. Because i imagine someone else writing on the map while i sight or take decisions. Ultimately i took a bad one when i thought it would be faster to periscope from 180m if i blew the tanks and ordered periscope at 20meters. This has worked before but i was stationary or silent running at 1 knot. Right i was, right all the way up to the surface where the angry destroyer awaited me (my idea was to periscope and take a snap shot at the merchants in the convoy before the destroyer could stop me and then submerge again).

On a historical note i know for a fact U-Boat commanders almost NEVER were stationary, can you confirm that please? Was the trouble they had keeping depth without the water flowing through the diving planes and the increased submerging times the only reason for it?
I don't have this problem in GWX 2.1. I also noted the periscope depth (for my IXB) varies accordingly to the weather ie water conditions. My opinion is while it's natural when a captain orders a depth he shouldn't personally worry about corrections (his crew should do that) i also think a stationary submarine should have trouble maintaining depth if that's what happened in real life, "not so long ago".
I must also say I've never commanded a IXB before dispite all the time I've been on and off the naval sims. Maybe it's just this boat, due to it's added weight?
Educate me please. Thanks in advance!
It is true that U-boats typically did not remain stationary but for the opposite reason that it is unwise to do so in GWX.
In GWX a stationary U-boat has a slightly positive buoyancy and will rise a couple meters over the set depth. Obviously if you are at periscope depth this is bad because it may expose your conning tower to viual observation in moderate swell.

Real U-boats would slowly sink when stationary because they were designed with a slightly negative trim. This, of course, meant having the E-motors damaged or destroyed was very dangerous.
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