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Old 06-21-08, 05:59 PM   #1
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By the way, the leaked internal Pentagon report about the miserable safety standards of US nuclear sites in Europe and a considerably high number of nuclear devices gone missing should supplement the popular finger pointing at others when nuclear proliferation is discussed. Can you imagine the outcry if a nuclear device blows up in Central Park, or in Tiergarten, and analysis shows that it was build in the US...?
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Tom Clancy is the MAN.

Skybird also raises a good point. The Iranian Naval Forces, if this blockade does pass, will do nothing more than mine the strait. Given that they already know about this, they're probably already preparing or are prepared to commence mine laying. I'd also imagine that the Russians are watching the situation very carefully to protect their oil investments.

However, I don't think this will pass. Blockading Iran would simply piss them off, and then they'd refuse to give us oil, and then oil prices would skyrocket to over $200 bucks a barrel.
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Tom Clancy is the MAN.

Skybird also raises a good point. The Iranian Naval Forces, if this blockade does pass, will do nothing more than mine the strait. Given that they already know about this, they're probably already preparing or are prepared to commence mine laying. I'd also imagine that the Russians are watching the situation very carefully to protect their oil investments.

However, I don't think this will pass. Blockading Iran would simply piss them off, and then they'd refuse to give us oil, and then oil prices would skyrocket to over $200 bucks a barrel.
It wouldn't be just Iranian oil shipments affected. Insurance prices for shipping in the Gulf would skyrocket. They don't even have to mine the strait, all it would take is them publically declaring they've done so and a single ship exploding.

And they Russians can watch all they want, and that is all they would end up doing.

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Tom Clancy is the MAN.

Skybird also raises a good point. The Iranian Naval Forces, if this blockade does pass, will do nothing more than mine the strait. Given that they already know about this, they're probably already preparing or are prepared to commence mine laying. I'd also imagine that the Russians are watching the situation very carefully to protect their oil investments.

However, I don't think this will pass. Blockading Iran would simply piss them off, and then they'd refuse to give us oil, and then oil prices would skyrocket to over $200 bucks a barrel.
It wouldn't be just Iranian oil shipments affected. Insurance prices for shipping in the Gulf would skyrocket. They don't even have to mine the strait, all it would take is them publically declaring they've done so and a single ship exploding.

And they Russians can watch all they want, and that is all they would end up doing.

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I fear I might have sounded little bleak here. Despite the economic strife, make no mistake what would become of the Iranian Navy (assuming we decided to limit it to that).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis

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Destroying the Iranian navy may please the ego, but in no way is a critical objective - doing so achieves nothing decisive.
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Destroying the Iranian navy may please the ego, but in no way is a critical objective - doing so achieves nothing decisive.
I didn't say it would....that's just what would happen.

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Destroying the Iranian navy may please the ego, but in no way is a critical objective - doing so achieves nothing decisive.
I didn't say it would....that's just what would happen.

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According to you. Funny how people assume these things, but they never play out as they expect.:hmm:
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