Mark VIII torpedo mod

Rockin Robbins · 06-19-08, 05:44 AM

For US style attacks, where torpedoes are not wasted and we get as close as possible, the range is entirely unimportant, as we will never use a third of it. Long range is good for DD attacks on opposing fleets, where aiming isn't really used aside from putting a number of topedoes distributed inside a sector from long range in the hopes of getting some fortuitous hits.

Our subs don't carry enough torpedoes to make that a tactic worth considering.

From our standpoint the 46 knot US Mark XIV is superior to the 40 knot British Mark VIII, but slightly inferior to the 50 knot Japanese Type 97. If you consider the 45.5 knot British Mark VIII (were there two variations?), it would be equivalent to the Mark XIV.

In torpedoes fired from submarines, speed = accuracy because there is less time for the enemy to react if they detect the torpedo on the way, or to make a random maneuver that ruins your shot.

keltos01 · 06-19-08, 07:18 AM

the japanese Type 92 electric torpedo had a range of 7000 m at 30 knots... not possible to outmaneuver something you don't see...

btw the japs had a different kind of torpedo tube from the US in that it recovered part of the air used to propell the torpedo out of the tube, thus leaving less of a tell-tale sign of firing.

Raptor1 · 06-19-08, 07:38 AM

The Mark VIII** had 2 speed settings, 1 long range at 41 knots, 1 short (But still longer then the Mark 14) at 45.5 knots, it had a stronger explosive charge then the Mark 14, and a more reliable impact detonator early on (Not sure though)

The Japanese Type 93 Long Lance surface Torpedo is by FAR the best Torpedo of WWII, Oxygen propulsion gave it a top speed at 50 knots, a range of 20km at that speed (Even more at lower speeds), no trail AND it had the largest warhead of all WWII Torps

The Type 95 was designed for Submarines, it was 1 knot faster but lacked the Type 93's range and the King-Kong warhead (Though it was still rather large)

IIRC the Japanese were working on a 60-knot Torpedo but it was canned because it couldn't be kept from jumping out of the water

BTW keltos, why does it say USS Tijgerhaai there?, should be Hr. Ms. (Or HNLMS), Or is that not fixable?

keltos01 · 06-19-08, 10:08 AM

another small thing to fix... grrrrrrrrr.
off course it should be Hr. Ms. Tijgerhaii and not USS.

Will do when the rest is fixed up

06-19-08, 05:44 AM	#1
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	For US style attacks, where torpedoes are not wasted and we get as close as possible, the range is entirely unimportant, as we will never use a third of it. Long range is good for DD attacks on opposing fleets, where aiming isn't really used aside from putting a number of topedoes distributed inside a sector from long range in the hopes of getting some fortuitous hits. Our subs don't carry enough torpedoes to make that a tactic worth considering. From our standpoint the 46 knot US Mark XIV is superior to the 40 knot British Mark VIII, but slightly inferior to the 50 knot Japanese Type 97. If you consider the 45.5 knot British Mark VIII (were there two variations?), it would be equivalent to the Mark XIV. In torpedoes fired from submarines, speed = accuracy because there is less time for the enemy to react if they detect the torpedo on the way, or to make a random maneuver that ruins your shot. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

06-19-08, 07:18 AM	#2
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	electric torpedoes the japanese Type 92 electric torpedo had a range of 7000 m at 30 knots... not possible to outmaneuver something you don't see... btw the japs had a different kind of torpedo tube from the US in that it recovered part of the air used to propell the torpedo out of the tube, thus leaving less of a tell-tale sign of firing. __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

06-19-08, 10:08 AM	#4
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	USS another small thing to fix... grrrrrrrrr. off course it should be Hr. Ms. Tijgerhaii and not USS. Will do when the rest is fixed up __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

06-19-08, 07:38 AM	#3
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	The Mark VIII had 2 speed settings, 1 long range at 41 knots, 1 short (But still longer then the Mark 14) at 45.5 knots, it had a stronger explosive charge then the Mark 14, and a more reliable impact detonator early on (Not sure though) The Japanese Type 93 Long Lance surface Torpedo is by FAR the best Torpedo of WWII, Oxygen propulsion gave it a top speed at 50 knots, a range of 20km at that speed (Even more at lower speeds), no trail AND it had the largest warhead of all WWII Torps The Type 95 was designed for Submarines, it was 1 knot faster but lacked the Type 93's range and the King-Kong warhead (Though it was still rather large) IIRC the Japanese were working on a 60-knot Torpedo but it was canned because it couldn't be kept from jumping out of the water BTW keltos, why does it say USS** Tijgerhaai there?, should be Hr. Ms. (Or HNLMS), Or is that not fixable?