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Old 06-15-08, 12:26 AM   #1
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Done and done. We can continue this here:
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Old 06-15-08, 10:36 AM   #2
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I only get to watch the history and military channel on youtube. Can it be that they have become very "patriotic" (biased) after 9/11?. The "Dogfights" shows for example are so horrible biased that it hurts to watch them. Did you ever see an American plane go down in one? They only show American victories (I won't deny that there have been many, but the picture is simply not complete if they show American victories only. There have been many non American aces and they do never get mentioned.)

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There has been a show called Wings of the Luftwaffe in the late 80's IIRC. I've seen one of the shows on youtube featuring the FW190.
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Old 06-15-08, 10:49 AM   #3
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There has been a show called Wings of the Luftwaffe in the late 80's IIRC. I've seen one of the shows on youtube featuring the FW190.
Looking back I think you're right. All my videos are in storage so I can't look to see if I have it. Peter Ustinov hosted their 'Wings of the Red Star', or something like that. I just wanted to see them do a 'Wings of the Rising Sun'.
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Although it would take many programs just to cover all the American Aircraft, I do agree that "wings" concentrating on the Aircraft of other nations would be very interesting
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There has been a show called Wings of the Luftwaffe in the late 80's IIRC. I've seen one of the shows on youtube featuring the FW190.
Looking back I think you're right. All my videos are in storage so I can't look to see if I have it. Peter Ustinov hosted their 'Wings of the Red Star', or something like that. I just wanted to see them do a 'Wings of the Rising Sun'.
I remember 'Wings of the Red Star' on the Discovery Channel, was a very good programme, one of my favourites. Peter Ustinov's narration was excellent and set just the right tone. The scripts were well written and the subjects always interesting.

Not seen it repeated though, at least not in the UK. Which is a shame, infact I think I'll have a hunt round Amazon see if I can find a copy on DVD.
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I only get to watch the history and military channel on youtube. Can it be that they have become very "patriotic" (biased) after 9/11?. The "Dogfights" shows for example are so horrible biased that it hurts to watch them. Did you ever see an American plane go down in one? They only show American victories (I won't deny that there have been many, but the picture is simply not complete if they show American victories only. There have been many non American aces and they do never get mentioned.)
sounds sorta like discovery channel "america has the best blah, the best gah, the best durr, the best umm..." load of crap
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I can not understand why anyone would want to watch a awful channel? The History Channel is just a joke, there research makes me laugh and bloody angry at the same time. Whats the point of making a program if the information is a mix of fact & fiction?

Complaining is wast of time I know, they just send you a fob off letter. I will admit I have never written to THC and I suspect they would just do the same thing. I stopped watching THC a long time ago, take some very good advice from me get yourself a good book on the subject you want to know more about.
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If your watching for historical accuracy, I'll agree, much of what I've seen seems open to question, interpretation, etc. But I believe the demographic for the THC is not the grogs but the average guy who might have some history/military interest, which is fine by me. I'd rather have people at least recognize what they cover, than the average tube watcher who probably can't even find their country on a map.
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The problem to me is, that they are sometimes stretching the truth too far.
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I'm with Stealth Hunter on this one. History Channel has strayed way too far away from history and into reality shows like Axe Men and Monster Quest and crap like that.

Wild West Tech was a great show. Dogfights was awesome, as well as Battle 360. The series they did on the Presidents was good. But it seems like shows like that have taken a back seat to modern day crap like Ice Road Truckers.

Check out the History International channel if your cable provider has it. It has a lot more history and a lot fewer reality shows.
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sounds sorta like discovery channel "america has the best blah, the best gah, the best durr, the best umm..." load of crap
Don't they? Having lots of money as a country tends to lead to that country having the best stuff last I checked.

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sounds sorta like discovery channel "america has the best blah, the best gah, the best durr, the best umm..." load of crap
Don't they? Having lots of money as a country tends to lead to that country having the best stuff last I checked.

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from what ive seen...they havent faced any "worthy" opponent (no..not cause America is "t3h r0xz0rs") but cause you've only fought against enemies with outdated equipment and in alot of cases, poorly trained crews/soldiers.
but sure...ill admit to that american gear doesnt exactly suck either, cause it dont
but i wont say its the best
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Equipment doesnt always say which side is better...
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Equipment doesnt always say which side is better...
Who ever said it did?
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from what ive seen...they havent faced any "worthy" opponent (no..not cause America is "t3h r0xz0rs") but cause you've only fought against enemies with outdated equipment and in alot of cases, poorly trained crews/soldiers.
but sure...ill admit to that american gear doesnt exactly suck either, cause it dont
but i wont say its the best
Bosnia had decent gear, but it still didn't work against its Western equivelents.

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