I'm Finally Going To Write the History Channel... - Page 2

Blacklight · 06-14-08, 05:14 PM

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I'm talking about programs that focus on nothing more than topics like "Who Was Jesus?" (popular around Christmas and Easter) and "History in the Bible". The Bible is not a history book and Jesus... what has he got to do with history? How are we even sure he was REAL to begin with?

And if they're going to study religion, then why do they just focus on Christianity and not the more interesting religions like Paganism and Shintoism? What about Judaism and Islam? What about Hinduism and Buddhism?

As much as I hate to admit it, we live in a fundamentalist Christian United States. The religious right are a LOT more numerous than people who would be interested in those other religions unfortunately. It's demographics and money.

Stealth Hunter · 06-14-08, 05:17 PM

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I'm talking about programs that focus on nothing more than topics like "Who Was Jesus?" (popular around Christmas and Easter) and "History in the Bible". The Bible is not a history book and Jesus... what has he got to do with history? How are we even sure he was REAL to begin with?

And if they're going to study religion, then why do they just focus on Christianity and not the more interesting religions like Paganism and Shintoism? What about Judaism and Islam? What about Hinduism and Buddhism?

Thats the funniest sh*t I have ever read! How do we know Jesus lived? There is more documented evidence on him than any person in HISTORY! Don't make me laugh if you want a decent answer!. i will come back to this in a sec.

-S

Not really. If he's so well documented, why is his childhood completely omitted from the Bible?:hmm:

They never say what he looked like, either. Ever notice how all the pictures you see of him reflect whites and Europeans (excluding the Asian interpretation of him). He would NOT be white. He would look Middle-Eastern and could have possibly even been black.

What are you talking about, SUB? History in that? No, no, no, no, and no.

Raptor1 · 06-14-08, 05:18 PM

I do agree that some shows about religion are related to History, But how is "Ice Road Truckers" related?

SUBMAN1 · 06-14-08, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacklight

As much as I hate to admit it, we live in a fundamentalist Christian United States. The religious right are a LOT more numerous than people who would be interested in those other religions unfortunately. It's demographics and money.

Excellent point. I would personally like to watch more about Christianity than any other religion. Plain and simple - its part of our heritage. A show on Hinduism would be interested persay, but not program after program.

-S

SUBMAN1 · 06-14-08, 05:19 PM

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Not really. If he's so well documented, why is his childhood completely omitted from the Bible?:hmm:

They never say what he looked like, either. Ever notice how all the pictures you see of him reflect whites and Europeans (excluding the Asian interpretation of him). He would NOT be white. He would look Middle-Eastern and could have possibly even been black.

What are you talking about, SUB? History in that? No, no, no, no, and no.

Let's put it this way, we have more proof that Jesus existed than we do about Julius Ceasar. Way more! To the point where we could question that Julius Ceasar even existed because not so much evidence exists about him.

By the way, his great works weren't done during his childhood, hence why a lot of it is ommited, but not all as you say. There is plenty on his chilhood, but its minor by comparisson.

-S

Stealth Hunter · 06-14-08, 05:24 PM

:rotfl: :rotfl:

I have NEVER in all my years heard anything funnier!

:rotfl: :rotfl:

For the love of your GOD, man, use COMMON SENSE. Julius Caesar did exist. We've got proof that he existed. We know details of his exploits and what happened with him as a boy and we know about his tyrannical dealings as a general and later emperor of the Roman Empire, the most powerful empire on the face of the earth! If you're denying his existence, you might as well say that Tutankhamen never existed!:rotfl: We don't have many facts on him, but we've got his BODY. We KNOW he existed.

Platapus · 06-14-08, 05:28 PM

Other than religious texts what other sources do we have for the life of Jesus?

SUBMAN1 · 06-14-08, 05:29 PM

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:rotfl: :rotfl:

I have NEVER in all my years heard anything funnier!

:rotfl: :rotfl:

For the love of your GOD, man, use COMMON SENSE. Julius Caesar did exist. We've got proof that he existed. We know details of his exploits and what happened with him as a boy and we know about his tyrannical dealings as a general and later emperor of the Roman Empire, the most powerful empire on the face of the earth! If you're denying his existence, you might as well say that Tutankhamen never existed!:rotfl: We don't have many facts on him, but we've got his BODY. We KNOW he existed.

Just as you know Jesus existed. Julius Ceasar only has a fraction of the evidence, so why do you discount much more overwhelming evidence that Jesus existed? If you bothered to even watch a History Channel, BBC channel, or Discovery channel (Discovery is very skepticle of religion in the first place) documentary on Jesus, you would already know this. Seems you turned things off to fast, or have never taken a history class.

-S

SUBMAN1 · 06-14-08, 05:32 PM

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Other than religious texts what other sources do we have for the life of Jesus?

Why don't you start with Rome's distaste for him?

Hahahahaha!

-S

Stealth Hunter · 06-14-08, 05:35 PM

SUBMAN, SUBMAN, SUBMAN...

Show me proof Jesus existed.

Your logic makes no sense. Saying that Julius Caesar never existed is basically saying that decades of Rome's history never happened.

Other than botched religious texts that say he existed, what evidence is there for your Jesus? (And as we all know, children, the Islamics say they're right with Religion, the Jews claim the same, the Hindus and Buddhists do, too.)

SUBMAN1 · 06-14-08, 05:37 PM

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SUBMAN, SUBMAN, SUBMAN...

Show me proof Jesus existed.

Your logic makes no sense. Saying that Julius Caesar never existed is basically saying that decades of Rome's history never happened.

Other than botched religious texts that say he existed, what evidence is there for your Jesus? (And as we all know, children, the Islamics say they're right with Religion, the Jews claim the same, the Hindus and Buddhists do, too.)

Don't patronize me.

Rome documented he existed as well. All the way to Rome's conversion to Christianity with Constantine.

Patronizing me due to your ignorance of history is showing your education level quite clearly.

-S

Stealth Hunter · 06-14-08, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Other than religious texts what other sources do we have for the life of Jesus?

Why don't you start with Rome's distaste for him?

Hahahahaha!

-S

Rome's distaste for him... according to the Bible...

Going to have to try harder than that.

If you look at actual Roman historical texts that aren't in the Bible, there's no mention of Jesus.

Where 'o where could he be?:hmm:

SUBMAN1 · 06-14-08, 05:38 PM

Am I touching a nerve now? Educate yourself and then come back here.

-S

Raptor1 · 06-14-08, 05:40 PM

Put the flamethrowers down please

This thread is getting derailed really fast

Stealth Hunter · 06-14-08, 05:41 PM

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SUBMAN, SUBMAN, SUBMAN...

Show me proof Jesus existed.

Your logic makes no sense. Saying that Julius Caesar never existed is basically saying that decades of Rome's history never happened.

Other than botched religious texts that say he existed, what evidence is there for your Jesus? (And as we all know, children, the Islamics say they're right with Religion, the Jews claim the same, the Hindus and Buddhists do, too.)

Don't patronize me.

Rome documented he existed as well. All the way to Rome's conversion to Christianity with Constantine.

Patronizing me due to your ignorance of history is showing your education level quite clearly.

-S

Don't you get uppity with me, kiddo.

Where? Where did it document his existence? I see it in the Roman section of the Bible, but not in actual historical texts.

You know what, nevermind. Trying to argue with a brainwashed Christian is like trying to plant a successful corn crop in the middle of the desert: you can try a thousand times, but you'll never get it done.

06-14-08, 05:18 PM	#18
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I do agree that some shows about religion are related to History, But how is "Ice Road Truckers" related? __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,442 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Other than religious texts what other sources do we have for the life of Jesus? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Am I touching a nerve now? Educate yourself and then come back here. -S __________________

06-14-08, 05:40 PM	#29
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Put the flamethrowers down please This thread is getting derailed really fast __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

06-14-08, 05:24 PM	#21
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	:rotfl: :rotfl: I have NEVER in all my years heard anything funnier! :rotfl: :rotfl: For the love of your GOD, man, use COMMON SENSE. Julius Caesar did exist. We've got proof that he existed. We know details of his exploits and what happened with him as a boy and we know about his tyrannical dealings as a general and later emperor of the Roman Empire, the most powerful empire on the face of the earth! If you're denying his existence, you might as well say that Tutankhamen never existed!:rotfl: We don't have many facts on him, but we've got his BODY. We KNOW he existed.

06-14-08, 05:35 PM	#25
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	SUBMAN, SUBMAN, SUBMAN... Show me proof Jesus existed. Your logic makes no sense. Saying that Julius Caesar never existed is basically saying that decades of Rome's history never happened. Other than botched religious texts that say he existed, what evidence is there for your Jesus? (And as we all know, children, the Islamics say they're right with Religion, the Jews claim the same, the Hindus and Buddhists do, too.)