Cornerred by 6 DD with no torp left... HELP

BasilY · 06-13-08, 07:15 PM

My type VIIB is currently trapped. After spending my last 5 torps in this convoy, I am cornerred by two DD's. So I take refuge under a Buckley class (which has been immobilized by my last torp). Hoping the noise of the wounded ship will hide me and the other 2 DD will lost sight of me and leave before my oxigen went out.

They didn't. And to make matters worse, after 2 hours in this predicament, and other convoy passed by the location (what are the chances...) and 4 DD from that convoy join in the siege.

Now my oxigen and battery is at 2/3. Sea is rough. 6 DD circle me like sharks. All radio equipment/code books are destroyed. I would love to just surface now and book my trip to Canada, (or Montana, which ever) Anyone with an idea how to get out of here?

And in the mean time, 2 convoys are travelling without escort, Kaluns, avenge my (almost inevitable) destruction.

Letum · 06-13-08, 07:29 PM

Well, the fact is sometimes you have already lost just by getting in a bad situation.

If you have used SH3 Commander there might be a thermal layer deep down. If you are
lucky it won't be deeper than you can dive too.

If not, your options are limited.
There will always be more than one DD listening for you.
There will always be a DD with a good sonar solution on you.

Tactics at your disposal?
You could try to make a run for it whilst you still have battery power for top-speed.
Perhaps changeing your depth rapidly at the same time.

You could try to stay dead in the water, but you will need to do this until the DD's
get bored or it will be wasted. I go up to 80m and then cut the engines for 30mins
whilst hopeing I don't sink to far down.

Ramming might take a destroyer down with you if your "lucky".

I would not like to be in your boots or your boot.

gimpy117 · 06-13-08, 07:33 PM

I say dive as deep as possible and go slow....

GoldenRivet · 06-13-08, 08:31 PM

set 220 meters, silent running, set 2kts or slower, steer 20 degrees left of coursethen right every few minutes

headcase · 06-13-08, 08:32 PM

Set the electric motors for one knot. Set rudder for 5 deg away from the biggest batch of DD's. Dive planes down. if you get a bit too close to crush depth, set ahead slow, come up to 190m, and repeat the process. It don't look good, but as long as your pressure hull is cool you might make it through. Try to stay between 205 and 230m and you may lose them.

richardphat · 06-13-08, 09:10 PM

I thought the max depth a VIIB could bear is around 180 m.... Im not sure but if he do a 220 m depth it would be risky

Letum · 06-13-08, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardphat

I thought the max depth a VIIB could bear is around 180 m.... Im not sure but if he do a 220 m depth it would be risky

180m is only the depth the factory gaurentee.
It can go beyond that before it has problems.

BasilY · 06-13-08, 09:45 PM

Thanks to all your help. But my current situation might need another solution, give me your opinion whether it might work.

Diving is out of the question. I had prior battle damage in the patrol before this convoy. I have no idea the state of my hull at this point.

Without the external camera, I don't have up to the second knowledge of the DDs.

So I think I need a way to trick the DD into wasting their fuel and DC. And (hopefully, move on)

I manuver my boat to be perpendicular under the wounded buckley. I will then head forward 1/3 for 45 seconds (I need to also figure out what will be a good length of time - to get the DD's commited to an attack run), and back full until my boat pass under the buckley entirely again. Then I will move forward again. I should repeat this until they ran out of ammo (if that's possible).

Feasible? any suggestions?

06-13-08, 07:15 PM	#1
BasilY Weps Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 359 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Cornerred by 6 DD with no torp left... HELP My type VIIB is currently trapped. After spending my last 5 torps in this convoy, I am cornerred by two DD's. So I take refuge under a Buckley class (which has been immobilized by my last torp). Hoping the noise of the wounded ship will hide me and the other 2 DD will lost sight of me and leave before my oxigen went out. They didn't. And to make matters worse, after 2 hours in this predicament, and other convoy passed by the location (what are the chances...) and 4 DD from that convoy join in the siege. Now my oxigen and battery is at 2/3. Sea is rough. 6 DD circle me like sharks. All radio equipment/code books are destroyed. I would love to just surface now and book my trip to Canada, (or Montana, which ever) Anyone with an idea how to get out of here? And in the mean time, 2 convoys are travelling without escort, Kaluns, avenge my (almost inevitable) destruction.

06-13-08, 07:29 PM	#2
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Well, the fact is sometimes you have already lost just by getting in a bad situation. If you have used SH3 Commander there might be a thermal layer deep down. If you are lucky it won't be deeper than you can dive too. If not, your options are limited. There will always be more than one DD listening for you. There will always be a DD with a good sonar solution on you. Tactics at your disposal? You could try to make a run for it whilst you still have battery power for top-speed. Perhaps changeing your depth rapidly at the same time. You could try to stay dead in the water, but you will need to do this until the DD's get bored or it will be wasted. I go up to 80m and then cut the engines for 30mins whilst hopeing I don't sink to far down. Ramming might take a destroyer down with you if your "lucky". I would not like to be in your boots or your boot. __________________

06-13-08, 07:33 PM	#3
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	I say dive as deep as possible and go slow.... __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

06-13-08, 08:31 PM	#4
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	set 220 meters, silent running, set 2kts or slower, steer 20 degrees left of coursethen right every few minutes __________________

06-13-08, 08:32 PM	#5
headcase Sparky Join Date: May 2007 Location: The wrong side of the tracks, Neverland Posts: 157 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Set the electric motors for one knot. Set rudder for 5 deg away from the biggest batch of DD's. Dive planes down. if you get a bit too close to crush depth, set ahead slow, come up to 190m, and repeat the process. It don't look good, but as long as your pressure hull is cool you might make it through. Try to stay between 205 and 230m and you may lose them. __________________ It's like the Blues. You can't play em if you haven't lived em. GWX 3.0 DID

06-13-08, 09:10 PM	#6
richardphat Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 682 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I thought the max depth a VIIB could bear is around 180 m.... Im not sure but if he do a 220 m depth it would be risky

06-13-08, 09:45 PM	#8
BasilY Weps Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 359 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Thanks to all your help. But my current situation might need another solution, give me your opinion whether it might work. Diving is out of the question. I had prior battle damage in the patrol before this convoy. I have no idea the state of my hull at this point. Without the external camera, I don't have up to the second knowledge of the DDs. So I think I need a way to trick the DD into wasting their fuel and DC. And (hopefully, move on) I manuver my boat to be perpendicular under the wounded buckley. I will then head forward 1/3 for 45 seconds (I need to also figure out what will be a good length of time - to get the DD's commited to an attack run), and back full until my boat pass under the buckley entirely again. Then I will move forward again. I should repeat this until they ran out of ammo (if that's possible). Feasible? any suggestions?