Trying to Patch XP from SP1 to SP2

Reece · 06-08-08, 10:02 PM

AIO sounds interesting but what about settings for each program, what folders you want the apps placed in, various options that have to be ticked/unticked, etc, seems to me that you may as well install individually, unless it can take apps that are currently installed (register entries etc) and place them into a new system?

Could you please elaborate kiwi_2005.

Thanks, btw Avira is great!

(wonder how long it will last free?

)

Edit: I did look on the web for AIO Creator but find nothing but crap, also looked up nLite, blowed if I can figure what the heck it is, how to use etc,

I think a manual install is the way to go!

d@rk51d3 · 06-09-08, 01:38 AM

With regards to a service pack 3 download, If you machine is fully up to date (which, in this case it isn't) the download is about 66MB.

Or you can download the full service pack which weighs in at about 350MB.

And give yourself a good hour to install completely.

kiwi_2005 · 06-09-08, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

AIO sounds interesting but what about settings for each program, what folders you want the apps placed in, various options that have to be ticked/unticked, etc, seems to me that you may as well install individually, unless it can take apps that are currently installed (register entries etc) and place them into a new system?

Could you please elaborate kiwi_2005.

Thanks, btw Avira is great!

(wonder how long it will last free?

)

Edit: I did look on the web for AIO Creator but find nothing but crap, also looked up nLite, blowed if I can figure what the heck it is, how to use etc,

I think a manual install is the way to go!

Might be easier for you as you probably wont get it right first time, i know i didn't. But if your willing to put in the time its worth it. AIO creator aint easy to get, i got the standard version from a I.T mate.

You can create an AIO manually these tools will do the same as an AIO creator:

Installer2Go v4.2.1 or later [[This tool for creating reliable Windows Installer packages that meet the Windows logo certification guidelines. Installer2Go is script-free and does not require the user to have any programming background, nor does it require the user to learn any application-specific language! It allows you to use a point-and-click interface to create and manage installation projects based on your business needs. Besides that this tool will allow you to create self-extracting executable files for distribution over the Web, Internet, Intranet and e-mail your data files, graphic images or whatever else you want to distribute!]]

CDMENU pro v5 - [creates a CD auto-start menu]

Install creator/Clickteam Install Maker Pro - [select a directory of files to install, customize your install program with a few mouse clicks and build it].

EasyBoot - For multiple OS installs and menus/creates gui layouts and more.

Smart Install. For creating full-scale installation packages. The program works with windows system registry and ini files. It can create shortcuts, display license agreement and information texts, register ActiveX controls, and execute commands.

In the end your have a bootable dvd that starts up with a graphic layout you designed yourself, WinXp/Vista or whatever OS of your choosing as the main installation, in the menus you created your see your software you have added. Just check what you want installed and begin.

jumpy · 06-09-08, 06:11 AM

So no-one has had trouble with SP3 boning their machine then? - AMD users have had trouble with a power management driver for cpu; apparently it's designed for intel chips to use. article
LINK

I'm not keen on how XP will now track major hardware components (like vista), so if you change out your mobo/cpu etc there's a possibility of you machine not working. LINK
I've got a full retail version of XP pro (SP2) for the express reason that I don't have to faff about with oem licensing/transfer issues or major hardware changes.

Based on what SP2 did to our pc's at work when it first came out, I'm quite tempted to leave SP3 for a little while yet.
Is it worth the risk that I'll have to mess about disabling parts of the os or run a system restore should it all go predictably wrong?

/cautious M$ product end-user.

d@rk51d3 · 06-09-08, 06:36 AM

I installed it, but upon rebooting, got a message that the installation was unsuccessful and had to be rolled back.

....So I rolled it back, and SP3 still shows up as the current installation. No more error messages have come up either. Either it's screwed up big time, or just had a small hiccup.

Either way, SP3 does not show up on the windows update page anymore, so I assume it's all ok. Go figure.

Reece · 06-09-08, 07:36 AM

Good grief, I'm having trouble with SP2 & my system is AMD Athlon 64, oh well ya never know a miracle might happen and SP3 goes in without a hitch!

@ Peterloo, I actually managed to download the 315 meg Service Pack through your link, so tomorrow I will give it a try!

Typical microsoft not covering AMD, I don't like em I'm afraid!

Maybe AMD has a patch, will do a little more research.

Thanks.

Edit: It seems that the AMD SP3 issue applies to HP machines only:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Win...-SP3,5334.html

jumpy · 06-09-08, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

Edit: It seems that the AMD SP3 issue applies to HP machines only

there is hope yet then

06-09-08, 06:00 PM

I have similar problem, I'm trying to re-install XP with a legal image file that has SP2 'imbedded' in it. The problem is, when I try to install it the cpu asks for "SP2 on a cd" to be inserted. Thing is, I don't have SP2 on a separate CD, it's supposed to be in the image. I haven't yet tried to burn it on a disk, not sure if that would work. I kinda doubt it.

I'm trying to get my XP validated through the MS validation thingy. There could be a possibility of my licence being a so called group licence, not sure of if thats the correct term. Meaning I got the XP from uni and there could be some kind of a limitation period to how long it's operational. Not sure though.

I wonder if I'm making any sense, I've been seeking info on this but haven't been able to solve it. Next I'll try to call MS help and ask them if they could validate my XP. Sigh.

edit. I've tried the slipsteaming with nLite just in case my legal image was corrupt, no help.

06-08-08, 10:02 PM	#1
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,757 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	AIO sounds interesting but what about settings for each program, what folders you want the apps placed in, various options that have to be ticked/unticked, etc, seems to me that you may as well install individually, unless it can take apps that are currently installed (register entries etc) and place them into a new system? Could you please elaborate kiwi_2005. Thanks, btw Avira is great! (wonder how long it will last free?) Edit: I did look on the web for AIO Creator but find nothing but crap, also looked up nLite, blowed if I can figure what the heck it is, how to use etc, I think a manual install is the way to go! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!* Last edited by Reece; 06-08-08 at 11:19 PM.

06-09-08, 06:11 AM	#4
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	SP3 ~ hijack So no-one has had trouble with SP3 boning their machine then? - AMD users have had trouble with a power management driver for cpu; apparently it's designed for intel chips to use. article LINK I'm not keen on how XP will now track major hardware components (like vista), so if you change out your mobo/cpu etc there's a possibility of you machine not working. LINK I've got a full retail version of XP pro (SP2) for the express reason that I don't have to faff about with oem licensing/transfer issues or major hardware changes. Based on what SP2 did to our pc's at work when it first came out, I'm quite tempted to leave SP3 for a little while yet. Is it worth the risk that I'll have to mess about disabling parts of the os or run a system restore should it all go predictably wrong? /cautious M$ product end-user. __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

06-09-08, 07:36 AM	#6
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,757 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Good grief, I'm having trouble with SP2 & my system is AMD Athlon 64, oh well ya never know a miracle might happen and SP3 goes in without a hitch! @ Peterloo, I actually managed to download the 315 meg Service Pack through your link, so tomorrow I will give it a try! Typical microsoft not covering AMD, I don't like em I'm afraid! Maybe AMD has a patch, will do a little more research. Thanks. Edit: It seems that the AMD SP3 issue applies to HP machines only: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Win...-SP3,5334.html __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!* Last edited by Reece; 06-09-08 at 08:03 AM.

06-09-08, 01:38 AM	#2
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,952 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	With regards to a service pack 3 download, If you machine is fully up to date (which, in this case it isn't) the download is about 66MB. Or you can download the full service pack which weighs in at about 350MB. And give yourself a good hour to install completely.

06-09-08, 06:36 AM	#5
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,952 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	I installed it, but upon rebooting, got a message that the installation was unsuccessful and had to be rolled back. ....So I rolled it back, and SP3 still shows up as the current installation. No more error messages have come up either. Either it's screwed up big time, or just had a small hiccup. Either way, SP3 does not show up on the windows update page anymore, so I assume it's all ok. Go figure.

06-09-08, 06:00 PM	#8
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I have similar problem, I'm trying to re-install XP with a legal image file that has SP2 'imbedded' in it. The problem is, when I try to install it the cpu asks for "SP2 on a cd" to be inserted. Thing is, I don't have SP2 on a separate CD, it's supposed to be in the image. I haven't yet tried to burn it on a disk, not sure if that would work. I kinda doubt it. I'm trying to get my XP validated through the MS validation thingy. There could be a possibility of my licence being a so called group licence, not sure of if thats the correct term. Meaning I got the XP from uni and there could be some kind of a limitation period to how long it's operational. Not sure though. I wonder if I'm making any sense, I've been seeking info on this but haven't been able to solve it. Next I'll try to call MS help and ask them if they could validate my XP. Sigh. edit. I've tried the slipsteaming with nLite just in case my legal image was corrupt, no help.