Enemies of Germany by dates

Hermit · 05-24-08, 02:38 PM

Hi all Kaleuns,

there was a good info about enemies of Germany in SH3+mods by date. You could look in this window and decide - to attack ship or no, if the flag is enemy - prepare torpedoes, if the flag is neutral - go away. I'm playing Operation Paukenschlag and spotted the ship under flag of Greece in January 1942 near American coast. Can I fire torpedoes?

Raptor1 · 05-24-08, 03:03 PM

Greece entered the war in 1940, So it should be...BUT, Watch out you're not firing at a German Merchant Raider...

Wait a minute, SH3 or SH4UBM?

Hermit · 05-24-08, 03:20 PM

I'm playing SH4UBM, and I don't know what ships can I attack. I saw a ship under flag of Panama and decided that it's neutral. Then I spotted ship under Greece flag, I remembered that Greece was at war with Germany, but the year? was it in 1942 or 1943, or earlier?
I cannot find in the game+mod information about enemies by date, so I don't know to attack or not. May be this information is in the data files?

Raptor1 · 05-24-08, 04:12 PM

Historically Greece entered the war in 1940, But in game the German Hilfskreuzers also fly the Greek Flag, so be careful...

05-25-08, 12:59 AM

i ran into this file looking for something else,

data/ roster/ DefSide.cfg

it tells the game what side ships are on at what dates

a little homework there and you have what you wanted

GerritJ9 · 05-25-08, 03:35 AM

Apart from "friendly" neutrals such as Spain, my policy is to sink anything. Panama may be officially listed as neutral (never checked the list), but nearly all Panama-registered tonnage was US-owned and thus enemy.

SilentOtto · 05-25-08, 03:40 AM

I had to go to wikipedia for that one, I also thought neutral, but Panama is listed as an ally from Pearl Harbour day...

Raptor1 · 05-25-08, 07:15 AM

Ships flying the Panamanian flag participated in some of the Lend-Lease Convoys (Panama was a part of the Pan-American Union so she had to declare war along with the US)

Hermit · 05-25-08, 01:34 PM

thank you Webster, so i had to sink that Panama ship

and i'll give a try on this Greece ship.

cgjimeneza · 05-31-08, 01:25 PM

sink anything not flying this flags:
Germany
Italy
Japan
Republic of Ireland

sink any ship carryng an american continent flag, we all went and declared war on the axis.. Costa Rica did it for sure on dec 7 1941

anyway, I dont think they would have found us on the map

Raptor1 · 05-31-08, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgjimeneza

sink anything not flying this flags:
Germany
Italy
Japan
Republic of Ireland

sink any ship carryng an american continent flag, we all went and declared war on the axis.. Costa Rica did it for sure on dec 7 1941

anyway, I dont think they would have found us on the map

So...I can fire on Nationalist Spain, Swiss, Swedish...Ships, But not Irish?

cgjimeneza · 05-31-08, 03:34 PM

use common sense... the prob of finding any of them in a combat area is slim...

yet the yanks did sink some soviet ships in norhtern japan...

elyz · 06-02-08, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor1

So...I can fire on Nationalist Spain, Swiss, Swedish...Ships, But not Irish?

Swiss Ships? ROFL, never heard of that!

cgjimeneza · 06-02-08, 06:54 PM

Come to think of it... the swiss never were good ship builders... they sometimes took national pride to far, their ships were the "swiss class" fast merch.. trouble they came with many holes LOL

05-24-08, 02:38 PM	#1
Hermit Nub Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kaunas, Lithuania Posts: 3 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Enemies of Germany by dates Hi all Kaleuns, there was a good info about enemies of Germany in SH3+mods by date. You could look in this window and decide - to attack ship or no, if the flag is enemy - prepare torpedoes, if the flag is neutral - go away. I'm playing Operation Paukenschlag and spotted the ship under flag of Greece in January 1942 near American coast. Can I fire torpedoes?

05-24-08, 03:03 PM	#2
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Greece entered the war in 1940, So it should be...BUT, Watch out you're not firing at a German Merchant Raider... Wait a minute, SH3 or SH4UBM? __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

05-24-08, 04:12 PM	#4
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Historically Greece entered the war in 1940, But in game the German Hilfskreuzers also fly the Greek Flag, so be careful... __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

05-25-08, 03:35 AM	#6
GerritJ9 Sonar Guy Join Date: May 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 389 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 6	Apart from "friendly" neutrals such as Spain, my policy is to sink anything. Panama may be officially listed as neutral (never checked the list), but nearly all Panama-registered tonnage was US-owned and thus enemy. __________________ Quamvis Patiens Acris My SH3/SH4 mods: http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/GerritJ9

05-25-08, 07:15 AM	#8
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Ships flying the Panamanian flag participated in some of the Lend-Lease Convoys (Panama was a part of the Pan-American Union so she had to declare war along with the US) __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

05-24-08, 03:20 PM	#3
Hermit Nub Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kaunas, Lithuania Posts: 3 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I'm playing SH4UBM, and I don't know what ships can I attack. I saw a ship under flag of Panama and decided that it's neutral. Then I spotted ship under Greece flag, I remembered that Greece was at war with Germany, but the year? was it in 1942 or 1943, or earlier? I cannot find in the game+mod information about enemies by date, so I don't know to attack or not. May be this information is in the data files?

05-25-08, 12:59 AM	#5
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	i ran into this file looking for something else, data/ roster/ DefSide.cfg it tells the game what side ships are on at what dates a little homework there and you have what you wanted

05-25-08, 03:40 AM	#7
SilentOtto Engineer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BF79 Posts: 209 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	I had to go to wikipedia for that one, I also thought neutral, but Panama is listed as an ally from Pearl Harbour day...

05-25-08, 01:34 PM	#9
Hermit Nub Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kaunas, Lithuania Posts: 3 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	thank you Webster, so i had to sink that Panama ship and i'll give a try on this Greece ship.

05-31-08, 01:25 PM	#10
cgjimeneza Captain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 527 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	Neutrals... what neutrals sink anything not flying this flags: Germany Italy Japan Republic of Ireland sink any ship carryng an american continent flag, we all went and declared war on the axis.. Costa Rica did it for sure on dec 7 1941 anyway, I dont think they would have found us on the map __________________ Pacific Thunder Campaing VIII-Retired www.subsowespac.org "Left on their own, engineers can be dangerous"

05-31-08, 03:34 PM	#12
cgjimeneza Captain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 527 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	neutrals use common sense... the prob of finding any of them in a combat area is slim... yet the yanks did sink some soviet ships in norhtern japan... __________________ Pacific Thunder Campaing VIII-Retired www.subsowespac.org "Left on their own, engineers can be dangerous"

06-02-08, 06:54 PM	#14
cgjimeneza Captain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 527 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	swiss ships Come to think of it... the swiss never were good ship builders... they sometimes took national pride to far, their ships were the "swiss class" fast merch.. trouble they came with many holes LOL __________________ Pacific Thunder Campaing VIII-Retired www.subsowespac.org "Left on their own, engineers can be dangerous"