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Old 05-21-08, 09:40 AM   #31
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We all know the UN lives up it's own ass.
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Old 05-21-08, 09:46 AM   #32
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I suppose there's strong scientific proofs and studies to back this statement.
No doubt there are many studies that show that the vast majority of people show racial preference.

One that springs to mind is the reaction times in shooting simulators when police are
presented with images of black and white males holding either telephones or guns.

But a "vast majority", however vast, does not speak for everyone.

Human natures are not hard to overcome. There are many abhorant things that are
in human nature, but not in a decent man's mind or actions.
Yes but these are subconscious reactions which can be measured by measuring the eye's iris reactions when shown pictures of people of other races, you can try and ignore it or you can even overcompensate but it is there.
I don't doubt that.
People react diffrently to the familiar and unfamiliar.

No doubt you get similar results when you present people with pictures of violins and
doors or any other kind of object.

That does not mean they are biased to one or the other.
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Old 05-21-08, 09:56 AM   #33
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I hate to sound contrary but yes it does, when people like something their Iris opens when they don't it closes, you can't help that, you can help how you deal with that reaction but it's something you have. Even stranger even black males don't like black males.



Not a scientific assesment perhaps...
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Old 05-21-08, 10:07 AM   #34
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We all know the UN lives up it's own ass.
Aaah, a answer we all can agree with

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Old 05-21-08, 10:19 AM   #35
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I hate to sound contrary but yes it does, when people like something their Iris opens when they don't it closes, you can't help that, you can help how you deal with that reaction but it's something you have. Even stranger even black males don't like black males.
Liking or disliking something does not make you racist either.

Show me 100 pictures of women and 100 of men and no doubt my iris will give away a
preference for female faces. I also, like everyone else, have ascetic preference that
includes skin tone.
Likewise I have strong cultural preferences.

Aesthetic, cultural and other such preferences are certainly not racism.

You can hate the look of Asian faces, despise rice and cartoons with large eyes,
but that doesn't make you a racist.
It is only racism when you dislike these things because they are of the Asisn race
and believe that your preferences are an objective, non-relative assessment. Only
then will you base other other judgements on your preferences.
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Old 05-21-08, 10:20 AM   #36
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The thing is that for every fool who refuses to vote for Obama just because he's black there is another who will vote for him JUST because he IS black. I believe the vast majority of Americans will vote for the guy who they think will do the best job.

Hispanics and Blacks are just as racist as any other group of Americans, yet all too often that is ignored in this country. Whether that says something good or bad about our nation is i guess is a matter of opinion.
This about sums it up.
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Old 05-21-08, 10:23 AM   #37
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The thing is that for every fool who refuses to vote for Obama just because he's black there is another who will vote for him JUST because he IS black. I believe the vast majority of Americans will vote for the guy who they think will do the best job.

Hispanics and Blacks are just as racist as any other group of Americans, yet all too often that is ignored in this country. Whether that says something good or bad about our nation is i guess is a matter of opinion.
This about sums it up.
Seconded.

Err...I mean..."thirded"(?)
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Old 05-21-08, 10:43 AM   #38
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I suppose there's strong scientific proofs and studies to back this statement.
I'm sure you can find all sorts of information on the web. The short answer is it's genetics. The longer answer is I've spent a lifetime dealing with people of different cultures, races, ethnicities, class and whatever. Work with diverse groups for a long time at ground level and use your eyes you just see patterns.
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Old 05-21-08, 10:44 AM   #39
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21% of Clinton voters in the Kentucky primary admitted that race affected their vote.
I think that's worth looking into.
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You can hate the look of Asian faces, .................but that doesn't make you a racist.
I beg to differ. You hate the look of Asian faces you have colored(pun intended) your view. You hate something you will treat it differently. You are prejudiced so you are racist.
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Old 05-21-08, 10:51 AM   #41
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21% of Clinton voters in the Kentucky primary admitted that race affected their vote.
I think that's worth looking into.
Heh, that surprises me.
I wonder how many Obama supporters had gender as an issue. :hmm:


Is the UN investigating racist voters or racism in the democratic institution?

I mean, everyone is entitled to vote based on race, not politics if they want to. That's
how democracy workes, even if it is sometimes hard to swallow.
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Old 05-21-08, 10:56 AM   #42
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I mean, everyone is entitled to vote based on race, not politics if they want to. That's how democracy workes, even if it is sometimes hard to swallow.
This.
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Old 05-21-08, 11:10 AM   #43
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Will the investigation be performed by white people or black people? Obviously, before any such investigation can be made the investigators themselves must be investigated to make sure no racist bias interferes, and if found, be eliminated to make sure the results are pure scientific blood.

The investigation of the investigators should be performed by a board of racially equal investigators: 50% white, 50% black, and 50% Spanish.

If no consensus is reached, the findings, whatever they are, must be declared racist. If consensus is reached, it's still racist as **** but then again this is like Obama's race to President: if he wins, he's the first black President, it's all thanks to his race and his race must be glorified; if he looses it was due to racism. Racism is inescapable in both races, I mean, cases.
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You can hate the look of Asian faces, .................but that doesn't make you a racist.
I beg to differ. You hate the look of Asian faces you have colored(pun intended) your view. You hate something you will treat it differently. You are prejudiced so you are racist.
I beg to differ with your differing.

You can dislike a skin colour without disliking the race that typically has it.
Race is not the same as skin colour.

Just because I dislike the colour of some someones skin, it does not mean I am prejudiced
against their other attributes.
In the same way that I do no make pre-judgements about someones ability to cook
based on my dislike of the clothes they ware, I do not make pre-judgements about
any attribute a person has based on my dislike of the tone of their skin.

I very much dislike heavily tanned skin. That does not mean I make any other
judgement about someone who has heavily tanned skin before i have the relevant
information to make other judgements.
I don't think heavily tanned skin is in any way objectively in-superior or that I can tell
anything about a person from how aesthetically pleasing I find them.
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Old 05-21-08, 02:49 PM   #45
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The UN was a corrupt, toothless waste of space the day it was formed, and nothing has changed.
So this would be the 'corrupt, toothles waste of space' that the USA is a pivotal founding member of, that has arguably prevented another world war, successfully intervened in Korea etc etc.....
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