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Old 05-21-08, 05:25 AM   #1
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first off, I'm not here to defend scientology, I've second hand experience of them and they are maniacs prepared to use physical violence as well as intimidation to further their aims.

However I'm not sure how that differentiates them from religions who do the same but on a more grandiose scale.
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Old 05-21-08, 06:08 AM   #2
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This kid is stupid and deserves what he got.

"A policewoman later read him section five of the Public Order Act and "strongly advised" him to remove the sign. The section prohibits signs which have representations or words which are threatening, abusive or insulting."

When a law enforcement officer starts quoting and showing you the law that you are breaking, it is a really good idea to listen to them.

If you don't agree with the law, go through your representatives and urge them to change the law.

If you try to "make a statement" by continuing to break the law in front of a law enforcement officer, you can't be surprised if you get in trouble.

"On the website he asks for advice on how to fight the charge: "What's the likelihood I'll need a lawyer? If I do have to get one, it'll have to come out of my pocket money.""

Of course it should come out of your own pocket! You were the idiot who insisted on breaking a law in front of a frickin policewoman after she warned you!!!

Personally I think the law is inappropriate. But inappropriate or not, it is the law and he was warned.

He may have thought he was a big tough man bucking the system, but it appears he is sniveling another tune now.

It is ok to disagree with a law, but that does not give you the right to break it and not accept the consequences. If you want a law changed, don't break it, work though the system.

"We're completely peaceful protesters expressing a perfectly valid opinion. This whole thing stinks."

He is probably right. But the law is the law. Intentions aside, you should not expect to break a law (no matter how much you disagree with it) in front of a policewoman and not get into trouble.

Not that this stupid kid will get into any actual trouble, I am sure the charges will be dropped. Maybe this experience will but the scare into him so that he tries to affect changes within the legal system, instead of without.
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Old 05-21-08, 06:23 AM   #3
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Hmm, I wonder if the same chief of police who cut the tape when this very same
Scientology place in London was officially opened had a hand in this. :hmm:

Or perhaps it was the chief of police and his deputies who all got presents worth
a few thousand pounds from the cult of Scientology.

They claim the CPS advised them to remove the signs, but the CPS say they
have not given any advice to the police about it.

Who bets they got advice from the cult instead of the CPS?

This stinks of corruption.


I would agree with Platapus, if the kid broke a alw.
But he did not break any law!
The term "cult" is not abusive or insulting; it is factual.
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Old 05-21-08, 09:37 AM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kurtz
first off, I'm not here to defend scientology, I've second hand experience of them and they are maniacs prepared to use physical violence as well as intimidation to further their aims.

However I'm not sure how that differentiates them from religions who do the same but on a more grandiose scale.
That dogs balk, and that I can balk, too, does not make me a dog.
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Old 05-21-08, 09:43 AM   #5
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first off, I'm not here to defend scientology, I've second hand experience of them and they are maniacs prepared to use physical violence as well as intimidation to further their aims.

However I'm not sure how that differentiates them from religions who do the same but on a more grandiose scale.
That dogs balk, and that I can balk, too, does not make me a dog.
And religions can do things cults cannot do I thought the converse would be true.
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Old 05-23-08, 10:38 AM   #6
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7416425.stm

as expected.
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Old 05-23-08, 10:45 AM   #7
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"Scientology is not a religion, it is a dangerous cult"
If his sign said.......

"Scientology is a pervert cult religion for perverts, it is a dangerous cult"

Then may be. :hmm:
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