29 reasons why skippering a fleet boat...

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Oh come on, don't tell me you would skip that scene when a dozen of half naked sweaty men grease some big torpedoes ?

Got a good chuckle out of this one:rotfl: Again with the imagery

[Der Kolkrabe]

Oh come on, don't tell me you would skip that scene when a dozen of half naked sweaty men grease some big torpedoes ?

If Sigmund Freund still lives, what he thinking about it:hmm:

[Schroeder]

O.K. I'll take the bait (even though I'm not an expert and maybe I'm talking bs here).

9. If your country is low on "war important materials" it is much better to ride a lot of small type VIIs than just a handful of fleetboats. (We were always low on resources like steel)

10. The U-Boat can run with a smaller crew (so you don't have to write so many letters to the familys after your sub got sunk with you as the only survivor in front of your monitor)

11. A U-Boat's silhouette is more difficult to spot because of the smaller conning tower and the smaller overall body.

12. The U-Boat can go deeper.

13. The "all hands forward" command will ensure that your crew stays physically fit.

So that's it for me (as I said I'm no expert and a lot of that stuff is based on what I've heard from someone who has heard that....).

What wonders me is that fleetboats were going three knots at silent running. Were they as quiet as the Germans running one knot? If not then I wouldn't call that an advantage.:hmm:

To Lukes 18th point.
U 2540 (NATO code Y 880) a type XXI served until 1968 and was later used as testsubmarine until 1982.
(Unfortunately these sites are in German but I bet you can find some English pages about that too)
http://www.janmaat.de/m_wbauer.htm

U 995 (type VIIc/41) was used by the Norwegian navy until 1962 (decommissioned in 1965)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/U_995

And now the experts can tear me apart:p.

[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

To Lukes 18th point.
U 2540 (NATO code Y 880) a type XXI served until 1968 and was later used as testsubmarine until 1982.
(Unfortunately these sites are in German but I bet you can find some English pages about that too)
http://www.janmaat.de/m_wbauer.htm

...

And now the experts can tear me apart:p.

U-2540 was scuttled, raised in 1957 (I think) and used as the research submarine Wilhelm Bauer, Never as a combat vessel (And was subsequently decomissioned in 1980 and turned into a museum in 1983 (With the originial WWII configuration))

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Raptor1

U-2540 was scuttled, raised in 1957 (I think) and used as the research submarine Wilhelm Bauer, Never as a combat vessel (And was subsequently decomissioned in 1980 and turned into a museum in 1983 (With the originial WWII configuration))

Research submarine... that was the term I was looking for when I wrote "testsubmarine".

The site claims it was decommissioned from official navy duty in 1968 but kept operating with a civil crew until 1982.

But you are right, it wasn't used as a combat vessel but this doesn't mean that it couldn't have handled the job. If a upgraded WWII fleetboat could do the job I don't see any reason why a upgraded type XXI shouldn't be up to it.

[TheSatyr]

Doenitz not a Nazi? Here we go with the revisionist history crap again. When Hitler made Doenitz his sucessor that also made Doenitz the defacto head of the Nazi party. Do you honestly believe Hitler would have done that if Doenitz wasn't a loyal party member? It's not like Doenitz was the only choice...he was just one of the few left that never "backstabbed" Hitler. (Doenitz was always "the good little soldier" and yes,Doenitz did have a Nazi Party ID card...which makes him a Nazi as far as I'm concerned).

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by TheSatyr

Doenitz not a Nazi? Here we go with the revisionist history crap again. When Hitler made Doenitz his sucessor that also made Doenitz the defacto head of the Nazi party. Do you honestly believe Hitler would have done that if Doenitz wasn't a loyal party member? It's not like Doenitz was the only choice...he was just one of the few left that never "backstabbed" Hitler. (Doenitz was always "the good little soldier" and yes,Doenitz did have a Nazi Party ID card...which makes him a Nazi as far as I'm concerned).

Just to add my view on the 'Nazi-issue'; IMO, calling all Nazi's bad guys, is like calling all the black ppl criminals (Not meant as a racist remark, but shows like COPS surely like to show blacks being the ones committing most of the crimes, which leads to generalisation). And just to avoid further issues, @TheSatyr, I know you didnt say all Nazis = bad.

I personally hold Doenitz in very high position, Nazi or not.