So frustrated I could scream!

Fincuan · 04-30-08, 06:37 PM

Since the problem with torpdoes should have been solved by patch 1.4 I'll only adress these issues:

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Originally Posted by bfindlay

INstalled the Trigger Maru Overhauled mod, enabled it with JSGME.

Ran the game - no mod screen, can't tell if it is 'working' although JSGME shows it as enabled.

Make sure you've installed it correctly. If its working then there should be a different load screen, though I'm not 100% positive. One certain way to make sure it works is to click "Credits" in main menu. A poem should appear, and if not then something's wrong.

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Tried a prebuilt mission - sub is on the surface. I go to radar - the on/off switch doesn't work.

You probably don't have a radar in the first place. The radar station is accessible even though you don't have the actual device, and if there's no radar in your boat then it's hardly the game's fault that it doesn't work. Most of the things in the game actually do work, no need to get all hyped up over a few minor issues. Trust me, it has been much worse, just like SH3 in the beginning.

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Monica Lewinsky · 04-30-08, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bfindlay

First - I got a box with a disc only in it - no key layout, no manual.

What country you in? seems very unusual for the packaging you got. Even Canadians got better packaging of the game then you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfindlay

INstalled the Trigger Maru Overhauled mod, enabled it with JSGME.
Ran the game - no mod screen, can't tell if it is 'working' although JSGME shows it as enabled.
Tried a prebuilt mission - sub is on the surface. I go to radar - the on/off switch doesn't work. Nothing seems to work in this game!

Seems your 1.4 patch is not up to speed.
You are trying WAY TOO MUCH all at ONCE from the get go for a FIRST TIMER.

You are throwing so much stuff at once, no one can help you.
Change ONE THING at a time. Test it, play it. Does it work? do NOT move on to the next "thing" until the last "thing" works!

Get rid of all the MODS. Test your SHIV un-MOD'ed and see if it works with patch 1.4. Does it work?

Just don't charge in here expecting help when you are whipping around changing so much stuff all at once.

Ian_L · 04-30-08, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Monica Lewinsky

Even Canadians got better packaging of the game then you.

What is that supposed to mean?

No I know, I know... I'm one of those that got the really bad bilingual book and nothing else. It's just the way it was said was funny.

bfindlay: Hang in there, patch 1.4 and a few key mods will do marvel. From what you are writing, I would try to completely re-install the game fresh, then 1.4, then enable jsgme, then TMO...

Your radar thing sounds like 1.4 is not installed properly. Because the radar works for me even in the training missions after 1.4.

-Pv- · 04-30-08, 10:50 PM

Your manual and key chart are probably on the disk as PDF files. Try learning the game as pure patched 1.4 or 1.5, then start using mods to change the things you don't like. Many seem to indicate the un-modded game might be easier to play for a new player.

As mentioned, you are probably trying to use the surface radar before the war period in which it is installed. Regardless, you have air radar and it's on all the time. Take a look at your navigation map. Be sure to zoom in and out to get perspective and detail.

Even without the surface radar you can get a lot done. There are areas of the pacific where if you know where to look, when, there are a lot of targets.
-Pv-

Quillan · 05-01-08, 08:25 AM

The load screen for TMO is a black/white photograph of one of the submarines with the late war conning tower, and the phrase TRIGGER MARU OVERHAULED across it. If you don't see this screen, it's not properly installed. My guess is you did what I did once. I manually created a folder in the MODS directory named for the mod, then unzipped the mod into this folder. If I did this with TMO, what I'd have is a structure that went like this:

Code:

MODS -> Trigger Maru Overhauled -> Trigger Maru Overhauled -> Data ->....

If you enable this, instead of moving the files to where they are supposed to go, JGSME creates a separate TMO folder in the main directory, so nothing works. Check the file structure on the mods.

banjo · 05-01-08, 08:42 AM

As far as radar is concerned--you always have air radar and it is always on; however it is not modeled in the game, i.e. there is no screen for you to look at.
You do not have surface (SJ) radar until it is historically correct for you to have it---sometime in 1943 I recall. You will have the blank screens in your boat but they will not enable until the game lets you install surface radar in the 'office'.

This is a superb game once it's patched and TMO makes it better. Everything (almost) works as it should--you just need to spend the time getting to know the game. It is not broken, and is a hell of a lot of fun. Have patience and learn.

bfindlay · 05-03-08, 08:17 PM

Thanks for the replies folks. I uninstalled everything, then did a virgin install, restarting as I went. Patched it up, and was able to play a couple of missions - works ok. Tried the Trigger Maru patch, and was able to get it to install, but noticed two things - first there is no external camera - even though this option is enabled in the game. That is a deal breaker right there - as the external visuals are generally superb. Also, the sub seems VEERRRYY slow when trying to 'end around' on contacts. I see the contacts race across the map screen, while the sub bareyl moves, even though it is at flank, and reports 18 knots. Based on relative movements, the surface contacts must be doing 65 - 70 kts!!

05-01-08, 08:25 AM	#5
Quillan Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 579 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The load screen for TMO is a black/white photograph of one of the submarines with the late war conning tower, and the phrase TRIGGER MARU OVERHAULED across it. If you don't see this screen, it's not properly installed. My guess is you did what I did once. I manually created a folder in the MODS directory named for the mod, then unzipped the mod into this folder. If I did this with TMO, what I'd have is a structure that went like this: Code: MODS -> Trigger Maru Overhauled -> Trigger Maru Overhauled -> Data ->.... If you enable this, instead of moving the files to where they are supposed to go, JGSME creates a separate TMO folder in the main directory, so nothing works. Check the file structure on the mods. __________________ We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

04-30-08, 10:50 PM	#4
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Your manual and key chart are probably on the disk as PDF files. Try learning the game as pure patched 1.4 or 1.5, then start using mods to change the things you don't like. Many seem to indicate the un-modded game might be easier to play for a new player. As mentioned, you are probably trying to use the surface radar before the war period in which it is installed. Regardless, you have air radar and it's on all the time. Take a look at your navigation map. Be sure to zoom in and out to get perspective and detail. Even without the surface radar you can get a lot done. There are areas of the pacific where if you know where to look, when, there are a lot of targets. -Pv-

05-01-08, 08:42 AM	#6
banjo Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	As far as radar is concerned--you always have air radar and it is always on; however it is not modeled in the game, i.e. there is no screen for you to look at. You do not have surface (SJ) radar until it is historically correct for you to have it---sometime in 1943 I recall. You will have the blank screens in your boat but they will not enable until the game lets you install surface radar in the 'office'. This is a superb game once it's patched and TMO makes it better. Everything (almost) works as it should--you just need to spend the time getting to know the game. It is not broken, and is a hell of a lot of fun. Have patience and learn.

05-03-08, 08:17 PM	#7
bfindlay Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the replies folks. I uninstalled everything, then did a virgin install, restarting as I went. Patched it up, and was able to play a couple of missions - works ok. Tried the Trigger Maru patch, and was able to get it to install, but noticed two things - first there is no external camera - even though this option is enabled in the game. That is a deal breaker right there - as the external visuals are generally superb. Also, the sub seems VEERRRYY slow when trying to 'end around' on contacts. I see the contacts race across the map screen, while the sub bareyl moves, even though it is at flank, and reports 18 knots. Based on relative movements, the surface contacts must be doing 65 - 70 kts!!