GTA 4 stabbing - Page 2

danlisa · 04-30-08, 01:02 PM

All reported incidents related to this game is due to hype. I mean serious hype, more than Halo.

Any game that receives maximum scores from ALL critics/reviewers is going to incite some form of public stupidity.

Kapitan_Phillips · 04-30-08, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

By the way, the article doesn't even say that the fight was related to the game at all, but linking the event to the game fits with the trend of saying "GTA is evil".

Gotta love this:

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Nikko-style stabbing

Anything to get mothers wound up.

Foxtrot · 04-30-08, 01:19 PM

I always wonder why folks say that the games like GTA can corrupt minds, but only as much as any other form of literature. Many more books and films are way more disturbing than any GTA game. How can people complain about the violence in a computer game, when films like SAW or the Hostel are on our TV screens!?

Besides, if someone can't differ between a game and reality then they better get themselves admitted in a mental hospital

antikristuseke · 04-30-08, 01:37 PM

Because it is easyer to shift blame than to raise your child.

Dowly · 04-30-08, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxtrot

I always wonder why folks say that the games like GTA can corrupt minds, but only as much as any other form of literature. Many more books and films are way more disturbing than any GTA game. How can people complain about the violence in a computer game, when films like SAW or the Hostel are on our TV screens!?

You forgot Rambo 4, where you see up-close how a bayonet is thrusted to a small child and a baby is thrown to a burning building.

d@rk51d3 · 04-30-08, 06:36 PM

I can imagine the stabbings on the increase, now that a bug has been found that prevents the game from being played on some consoles. It just freezes on the intro screen and requires a powerdown of the system.

According to Rock*, it affects both PS3 and X-BOX360 consoles, but they don't know why. It seems to be hardware related at the moment, and is causing more than a few tears.

I'd hate to be on that helpdesk.

baggygreen · 04-30-08, 08:09 PM

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What the news failed to bring up is the fact that Playstation 3 created riots at the stores when they had it out. Same with Wii. Not to mention a stuffed toy called Tickle Me Elmo. Crazed mothers pushing and shoving for that stupid toy.

Thanks for reminding me AVG... i was working in a major store's toy dept that day.

people look at the downside to GTA, yes you *can* do the murders etc, but you dont *need* to. its in the game for those who want to, but you can do it without resorting to the extreme violence mentioned so often!

AVGWarhawk · 04-30-08, 08:11 PM

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Bugs is not real enough. :p

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But how often did you have a stick of dynamite to hand someone?

The point is that people have tried to get WB cartoons banned because "they teach our kids to be violent."

Steve, you and I are from the same era. I had friends who's parents did not allow them to watch Warner Brothers cartoons because they felt they were violent. Gosh, imagine if they took a peek at GTA

AVGWarhawk · 04-30-08, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Because it is easyer to shift blame than to raise your child.

I agree whole heartedly here on this point. I think it started with dear Hillary Clinton when she said a whole villiage needs to raise a child. Crack-pot thought really. It is up to the parent to know what your kids are up too, who they hang with and how school work is going. Simple formula really, Ask questions=getting a response. If it equals the wrong response, help them find the right answer.

AVGWarhawk · 04-30-08, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by baggygreen

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

What the news failed to bring up is the fact that Playstation 3 created riots at the stores when they had it out. Same with Wii. Not to mention a stuffed toy called Tickle Me Elmo. Crazed mothers pushing and shoving for that stupid toy.

Thanks for reminding me AVG... i was working in a major store's toy dept that day.

people look at the downside to GTA, yes you *can* do the murders etc, but you dont *need* to. its in the game for those who want to, but you can do it without resorting to the extreme violence mentioned so often!

Yes sir, I watched the fighting and tramplings on the news for a friggin console just to play games. Not to mention people getting held up at knife/gunpoint on the way to their car.

August · 04-30-08, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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Originally Posted by August

But how often did you have a stick of dynamite to hand someone?

The point is that people have tried to get WB cartoons banned because "they teach our kids to be violent."

I wasn't being serious, but i guess since you mention it your experience doesn't really prove the theory either way. Obviously if every kid that watched violent cartoons went out and attempted to act them out in RL folks wouldn't be having this debate.

Sailor Steve · 04-30-08, 09:36 PM

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I wasn't being serious, but i guess since you mention it your experience doesn't really prove the theory either way. Obviously if every kid that watched violent cartoons went out and attempted to act them out in RL folks wouldn't be having this debate.

Your question was direct, and seemed serious enough. On the other hand, wasn't my original statement just a little bit over the top?

And my point seems to have been exactly the same: that what we watch and what we play does NOT shape us nearly as much as what we are taught by those whose job it is to raise us.

Cohaagen · 04-30-08, 11:29 PM

http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/...eve-the-press/

Lazy, lazy, lazy, crap journalism.

I once got duffed up outside a chipper in Edinburgh - perhaps the waft of simmering palm oil or stress of waiting for a chicken pakora was responsible?

You read far too much news, Subman.

Jimbuna · 05-01-08, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cohaagen

http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/...eve-the-press/

Lazy, lazy, lazy, crap journalism.

I once got duffed up outside a chipper in Edinburgh - perhaps the waft of simmering palm oil or stress of waiting for a chicken pakora was responsible?

You read far too much news, Subman.

Chipper....:hmm:
Edinburgh...:hmm:

What type of trainers had you on

antikristuseke · 05-01-08, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Because it is easyer to shift blame than to raise your child.

I agree whole heartedly here on this point. I think it started with dear Hillary Clinton when she said a whole villiage needs to raise a child. Crack-pot thought really. It is up to the parent to know what your kids are up too, who they hang with and how school work is going. Simple formula really, Ask questions=getting a response. If it equals the wrong response, help them find the right answer.

It started way earlyer than that, way earlyer.

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danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	All reported incidents related to this game is due to hype. I mean serious hype, more than Halo. Any game that receives maximum scores from ALL critics/reviewers is going to incite some form of public stupidity. __________________

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Foxtrot Ensign Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 231 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I always wonder why folks say that the games like GTA can corrupt minds, but only as much as any other form of literature. Many more books and films are way more disturbing than any GTA game. How can people complain about the violence in a computer game, when films like SAW or the Hostel are on our TV screens!? Besides, if someone can't differ between a game and reality then they better get themselves admitted in a mental hospital __________________ And when the plane got down to, 'The plane is 10 miles out,' the young man also said to the vice president, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?' Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant.

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antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Because it is easyer to shift blame than to raise your child.

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d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,952 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	I can imagine the stabbings on the increase, now that a bug has been found that prevents the game from being played on some consoles. It just freezes on the intro screen and requires a powerdown of the system. According to Rock, it affects both PS3 and X-BOX360 consoles, but they don't know why. It seems to be hardware related at the moment, and is causing more than a few tears. I'd hate to be on that* helpdesk.

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Cohaagen Frogman Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Posts: 296 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/04/...eve-the-press/ Lazy, lazy, lazy, crap journalism. I once got duffed up outside a chipper in Edinburgh - perhaps the waft of simmering palm oil or stress of waiting for a chicken pakora was responsible? You read far too much news, Subman.