VII vs. IX

treblesum81 · 04-30-08, 12:21 AM

So, aside from the size issue, its really a matter of where you want to do your hunting?

If you want to do ffar reaching patrols that take you to the south atlantic and later to america, you've got to do it in a type IX, but if you want to be on the front lines of the Europe war, you stick to the type VII?

Greg

Phaedrus · 04-30-08, 12:42 AM

It's a case of where you want to hunt, and for how long (if you are using realistic fuel consumption).

But, in the later years, it comes down to survivability.

In my current career I started with an IXB - more torpedoes, and a 10cm gun packs a bigger punch than the 8.8 gun on the VII's.
It's ideal for early war when escorts aren't at their best, have no sonar, and the merchants are unarmed.

However, as the war progresses things get tough in the big boat.

Mid war I have taken to shooting the front four tubes, two torpedoes per target in a convoy, from about 2000 m and then immediately proceeding deep and directly away at silent running.
Take your two good merchants and then you can find another convoy some other time.

If you want to gun sling in the mid war years, you'll need a VII boat to survive convoy attacks.

It's mostly to do with your particular attack style, the locations you want to hunt, and how far along in the war you are.

Good luck.

Zajcev · 05-01-08, 05:18 AM

The 10cm gun is not much better than 8cm. The 8cm gun gets 2x as much high explosive ammo.

In IX, you don't have to patrol where they tell you, just go anywhere you want, use all torpedoes and ask base for permission to return by radio. The only thing I like about IXD2 is torpedoes and AA (although late VII can have the same AA), but I hate everything else.

Switch boat when it gets too boring.

Bosje · 05-01-08, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Zajcev

Switch boat when it gets too boring.

type VIIC from late '42 onwards does not get boring

STEED · 05-01-08, 06:56 AM

The big IX boats are pure bloody French totty bait.

Ask jim, he's got a few around each arm.

Jimbuna · 05-01-08, 07:39 AM

Sme things in life are never that certain

Frank0001 · 05-01-08, 08:02 AM

Auch, that burned my eyes....forever

STEED · 05-01-08, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Sme things in life are never that certain

Big and fruity.

Tessa · 05-01-08, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zajcev

The 10cm gun is not much better than 8cm. The 8cm gun gets 2x as much high explosive ammo.

In IX, you don't have to patrol where they tell you, just go anywhere you want, use all torpedoes and ask base for permission to return by radio. The only thing I like about IXD2 is torpedoes and AA (although late VII can have the same AA), but I hate everything else.

Switch boat when it gets too boring.

After the late portion of 41' and more and more of the the merchant ships become armed. Some get them sooner than the others, by 42' pretty much any merchant you come across is gonna have some sort of cannon or multiple machine guns mounted that gnaw away at your hull. I just take the deck gun off, makes the emergency dives a little bit fast (about a second); too bad you can't use the extra space created to store more torpedos.......:hmm:

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04-30-08, 12:21 AM	#1
treblesum81 Frogman Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 308 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	So, aside from the size issue, its really a matter of where you want to do your hunting? If you want to do ffar reaching patrols that take you to the south atlantic and later to america, you've got to do it in a type IX, but if you want to be on the front lines of the Europe war, you stick to the type VII? Greg

04-30-08, 12:42 AM	#2
Phaedrus A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 79 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	It's a case of where you want to hunt, and for how long (if you are using realistic fuel consumption). But, in the later years, it comes down to survivability. In my current career I started with an IXB - more torpedoes, and a 10cm gun packs a bigger punch than the 8.8 gun on the VII's. It's ideal for early war when escorts aren't at their best, have no sonar, and the merchants are unarmed. However, as the war progresses things get tough in the big boat. Mid war I have taken to shooting the front four tubes, two torpedoes per target in a convoy, from about 2000 m and then immediately proceeding deep and directly away at silent running. Take your two good merchants and then you can find another convoy some other time. If you want to gun sling in the mid war years, you'll need a VII boat to survive convoy attacks. It's mostly to do with your particular attack style, the locations you want to hunt, and how far along in the war you are. Good luck.

05-01-08, 05:18 AM	#3
Zajcev Seaman Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 34 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The 10cm gun is not much better than 8cm. The 8cm gun gets 2x as much high explosive ammo. In IX, you don't have to patrol where they tell you, just go anywhere you want, use all torpedoes and ask base for permission to return by radio. The only thing I like about IXD2 is torpedoes and AA (although late VII can have the same AA), but I hate everything else. Switch boat when it gets too boring.