Obama running scared. Refuse to debate Clinton

[DeepIron]

If Obama is smart, he'll keep his mouth shut (no more debates) and let his charisma win for him. Anyone who takes the time to check out his "plans for change" for the US is bound to find them "unworkable" at least in the short term, IMO. He's too "junior", hasn't got any political clout to speak of, and I feel that those politicos who are openly supporting him only do so for their own benefit. Just cynasim on my part really...

His next smart move would be to name Richardson as his VP running mate and garner support from the Hispanic community, IMO.

[TDK1044]

North Carolina carries more delegates than Indiana. Obama is well ahead in NC, and it's a dead heat in Indiana. If Hillary loses both then the pressure on her to pull out will be huge. His win in NC will wipe out the 10 delegates she gained in PA. With Indiana that close, whoever wins there will only gain 3 or 4 delegates. This 'nip tuck' delegate gain and loss will continue to the end.

The difference is that Obama is currently 135 delegates ahead of her. If it was a 20 or 30 delegate lead, it would be different. But at the end of the process, he will have won more states than Hillary, he'll have more of the popular vote than Hillary, and he'll have a delegate lead of about 120 with a lot of senior Democrats endorsing him.

I think even when the race is on between McCain and Obama, Hillary will still be out there campaigning!

[DeepIron]

I think even when the race is on between McCain and Obama, Hillary will still be out there campaigning!

yeah, her and Nader!

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

This time around for me the choice is between a grumpy old fart, a liar and a mirage.

These days it seems that all American elections consist of is "who do I hate the least?"

[DeepIron]

Originally Posted by Platapus

These days it seems that all American elections consist of is "who do I hate the least?"

What my friend Wes calls the "evil of two lessers"... American Idol has more going for it than our electoral process it seems.

[PeriscopeDepth]

The three candidates left standing are better than any serious candidates seen in a long while, IMO. And as for debates, I don't blame him. That last debate was a joke.

PD

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Dean can say whatever he wants. The Super Delegates will vote the way they want when they're ready and Dean is irrelevant to that process. He can ask that they vote by the end of June....and they can ignore him if they so choose....as the rules allow.

Unless Obama really screws something up, it's over.

The only thing over is the Obama love affair.

Dean is more relevent than you or I and apparently the AP thinks the same way:

"WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton now leads John McCain by 9 points in a head-to-head presidential matchup, according to an Associated Press-Ipsos poll that bolsters her argument that she is more electable than Democratic rival Barack Obama"



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080428/...l_race_ap_poll


"Also on Monday, the head of the Republicans' House campaign committee said the party would rather face Obama in November because the GOP believes Clinton would be more of a threat to McCain among moderate voters."



Obama is playing prevent with the score tied.

[baggygreen]

what you guys dont want is Mr Public Image.

but thats what it looks liek you're getting, because the public is entirely uneducated and so easily misled.

We got Mr P.I. here, its been 6 months and just last week he made his first real step - raise tax on popular premixed alcohol to try make it tougher and less attractive to kids.

the rest of the time he's been telling us how great he is and how much he's going to do for us... without doing anything!

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by DeepIron

If Obama is smart, he'll keep his mouth shut

His next smart move would be to name Richardson as his VP running mate and garner support from the Hispanic community, IMO.

You are so right here...if he does win his party...this would be a very very smart move.

IMO

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by NEON DEON

The only thing over is the Obama love affair.

Dean is more relevent than you or I and apparently the AP thinks the same way:

"WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton now leads John McCain by 9 points in a head-to-head presidential matchup, according to an Associated Press-Ipsos poll that bolsters her argument that she is more electable than Democratic rival Barack Obama"



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080428/...l_race_ap_poll


"Also on Monday, the head of the Republicans' House campaign committee said the party would rather face Obama in November because the GOP believes Clinton would be more of a threat to McCain among moderate voters."



Obama is playing prevent with the score tied.

Wright's rantings can certainly hurt Obama a lot, but if the SDs were to ignore the candidate who won the most states, and who won more delegates and who won the popular vote, there would be anarchy within the Democratic party and screams of racism. Given the above, they will vote for Obama, even if they know that Hillary would stand a better chance against McCain. Such is politics.

The bottom line is that the Democrats have created a specific criteria by which their nominee is chosen. The DNC could form a comittee to sit in a room and choose a nominee who they believe would stand the best chance of beating the Republican nominee, and not bother entering into any kind of campaign based selection process. But if you have a democratic process for electing your nominee, then you must honor the winner of that process, even if you believe that another candidate would stand a better chance against the Republican candidate. To do otherwise would defeat the whole purpose of the process.

If the SDs were to steal the nomination and give it to Hillary, the damage to the Democratic party would be huge and the Reagan Democrats would certainly see to it that McCain was the next president.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

There have been bomb threats on the church, brad. Check out Wright's interview with Bill Moyers.

No. In the verbal sense, not physical. He says the hoopla about him is actually an attack on the black church.

This is absolutely ridiculous. The same kind of grade-A BS that means if you don't vote for Hillary it makes you sexist.
You honestly believe that if you don't vote for Obama you will be labelled a racist?
Are you getting this from anything Obama said?

Maybe I should have put it in quotes or something or spent moretime on the post. If you don't agree with what Wright says or if you don't like what he says you are attacking blacks. Thats the impression I get from him.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

But if you have a democratic process for electing your nominee, then you must honor the winner of that process, even if you believe that another candidate would stand a better chance against the Republican candidate. To do otherwise would defeat the whole purpose of the process.

But it's in the rules that in the end the Party can choose who they think is the most electable. So much for democracy! Just goes to show voting doesn't mean squat. You can win the vote and still not be the Democratic nominee and you can win the vote and still not be president.
Myself? I was going to vote for McCain but it's to the point that his bs has turned me off also. I'm probably just not going to vote at all this time around.

[TDK1044]

For the first vote, all the pledged delegates must vote the way they did at the primary. The SDs can vote how they want. If there is no winner as a result of that vote, then all the delegates are free to vote any way they like.

[SUBMAN1]

Maybe its a case of Hillary running scared? Check this out - just developing:

EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton to appear for first time ever on FOX NEWS' 'The O'Reilly Factor' Wednesday night... DEVELOPING...

http://www.drudgereport.com/

-S

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Maybe its a case of Hillary running scared? Check this out - just developing:

http://www.drudgereport.com/

-S

Obama, for the first time in two years, appeared on Fox this week and seems to have pissed off a lot of liberal bloggers. KEWL


Ok everyone sing it now!


"You've lost that lovin' feeling
Whoa, that lovin' feeling
You've lost that lovin' feeling
Now it's gone, gone, gone, wooooooh
Now there's no welcome look in your eyes when I reach for you
And now your're starting to criticize little things I do
It makes me just feel like crying, baby
'Cause baby, something in you is dying"

Thank you. Thank you very much




http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...distanc-1.html

"Liberal bloggers are expressing outrage over Barack Obama's appearance this weekend on Fox News, accusing the Democratic presidential front-runner of kowtowing to the network's conservative viewers, and throwing his online supporters to the wolves."

So who is more scared?:hmm: