RSRDC and Historic Accuracy

THE_MASK · 04-28-08, 04:38 PM

Dont tell me , i dont want to know . Imagine my jubilation after finding something after 2 patrols with nothing

Quillan · 04-28-08, 04:44 PM

So far, having 6 or so patrols in TMO with RSRDC, the only IJN units I've encountered (other than convoy escorts) has been one single task force that consisted of two Kongo battleships and two destroyers. I got advance radio notice of the TF, intercepted it, and sank one of the Kongos.

Soundman · 04-28-08, 05:57 PM

Well Quillan, you are having much better luck than I !

That's the kind of action I've been awaiting. I should have mentioned, I too, am running TMO along with RSRDC. I'm not complaining by any means. I'm thrilled with the gameplay and very appreciative to the modders.

Maybe I've just had bad luck and/or need to be more patient. I must also admit I've changed carreers so many times due to the constant improvements with this game, that the farthest I've been into the war is maybe late 1943, early 1944. Although I've probably completed well over a 150 patrols, I have yet to run into a major IJN convoy, or even a battleship. Once I did come across a lone carrier and managed to put her down, but shortly thererafter, a new patch surfaced and like many others, started a new carreer. I'm dying to come across the "Yamatto" or anything close to a "battleship". I'll hang in there, what a great game this is. On the other hand, it must be the thrill of the hunt and the wish for the perfect quarry, keeping us all interested in playing. I am a true simmer at heart, whether it be a modern sim such as Dangerous Waters or my all time favorite, Falcon 4.0. (Yeah Multivipers!)

To close, my targeting has become superb, I just feel the need for more of a challenge than just merchants. Bring on the big boys!

Quillan · 04-28-08, 06:15 PM

I think I'm about to get right in the middle of the Marianas Island campaign. In my most recent patrol, I left June 12, 1944 from Majuro, ordered to deploy to the Straits of Luzon. So far, between 13 June and 16 June, I've had a host of flash traffic messages of massive IJN naval movement, all heading northeast in the direction of the Phillipine Sea. I did a little cut/paste in Photoshop to show you:

Let's see what I can find. So far, if the reports are accurate, it's at least 6 battleships, 4 fleet carriers and 11 cruisers, plus assorted other escorts and oilers. Wish me luck.

AVGWarhawk · 04-28-08, 06:27 PM

The thing with RSRD is Lurker has created something very similar to what was experienced on patrols during WW2. Days upon days of nothing; then you find what you came out to find. It sort of makes you very aggressive to get a sinking! Sure, it would seem to be a cheat of sorts if you know when a major battle will take place and attempt to make it, but, as much as I have played with this mod, I have yet to be remotely close. You do get reports and with any luck, you are around to attempt a intercept. Rest assured, the ships are there to sink. Just have to find them. A successful patrol is bagging 2-3 vessels. Do this over a course of 5-6 patrols and you will move up to new construction. Most importantly, complete the assigned patrol area. I will not say that RSRD will frustrate you. It will...just as frustrated as the skipper and crews who patrolled for days and had nothing to show for it. Then, out of nowhere, your watch sees a vessel or vessels and all hell breaks loose.

DavyJonesFootlocker · 04-29-08, 07:34 AM

I started a career in Task Force 8.5 out of Dutch Harbour and sailing East. Thought I'd never find an enemy TF but I ran into one heading towards Kiska Island which was as accurate since the Japanese occupied the island. Sank one Light Cruiser and a Freighter in an S-18. Sailing with the sun behind you is advantageous.

Soundman · 04-29-08, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The thing with RSRD is Lurker has created something very similar to what was experienced on patrols during WW2. Days upon days of nothing; then you find what you came out to find. It sort of makes you very aggressive to get a sinking! Sure, it would seem to be a cheat of sorts if you know when a major battle will take place and attempt to make it, but, as much as I have played with this mod, I have yet to be remotely close. You do get reports and with any luck, you are around to attempt a intercept. Rest assured, the ships are there to sink. Just have to find them. A successful patrol is bagging 2-3 vessels. Do this over a course of 5-6 patrols and you will move up to new construction. Most importantly, complete the assigned patrol area. I will not say that RSRD will frustrate you. It will...just as frustrated as the skipper and crews who patrolled for days and had nothing to show for it. Then, out of nowhere, your watch sees a vessel or vessels and all hell breaks loose.

On the contrary, I don't feel frustrated, I like the realism. It would become quite boring if targets were constantly popping up. The hunt is what keeps things interesting. And, I agree with you Warhawk, that the anticipation makes the sinkings more fulfilling. I am having good luck finding the merchants, I'm just not finding them very challenging anymore, as most of them I have run accross are without escorts and my targeting has become quite superb (if I may say so

). That is why I'm hoping to run into some IJN units to get my heartbeat up a bit.

Soundman · 04-30-08, 09:52 AM

UPDATE! Hooray! Maybe I just needed to open my mouth for something to happen. Last night I finally ran accross a Task Force. No big boats, but 3 various DD's. Today I go home and see if I can put all three under with no damage to myself.

AVGWarhawk · 04-30-08, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Soundman

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The thing with RSRD is Lurker has created something very similar to what was experienced on patrols during WW2. Days upon days of nothing; then you find what you came out to find. It sort of makes you very aggressive to get a sinking! Sure, it would seem to be a cheat of sorts if you know when a major battle will take place and attempt to make it, but, as much as I have played with this mod, I have yet to be remotely close. You do get reports and with any luck, you are around to attempt a intercept. Rest assured, the ships are there to sink. Just have to find them. A successful patrol is bagging 2-3 vessels. Do this over a course of 5-6 patrols and you will move up to new construction. Most importantly, complete the assigned patrol area. I will not say that RSRD will frustrate you. It will...just as frustrated as the skipper and crews who patrolled for days and had nothing to show for it. Then, out of nowhere, your watch sees a vessel or vessels and all hell breaks loose.

On the contrary, I don't feel frustrated, I like the realism. It would become quite boring if targets were constantly popping up. The hunt is what keeps things interesting. And, I agree with you Warhawk, that the anticipation makes the sinkings more fulfilling. I am having good luck finding the merchants, I'm just not finding them very challenging anymore, as most of them I have run accross are without escorts and my targeting has become quite superb (if I may say so

). That is why I'm hoping to run into some IJN units to get my heartbeat up a bit.

I like hunting the singletons. As far as not challenging, are you using TM or RFB with improved AI characteristics? RSRD changes campaign only and not AI reaction.

04-28-08, 04:44 PM	#2
Quillan Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 579 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	So far, having 6 or so patrols in TMO with RSRDC, the only IJN units I've encountered (other than convoy escorts) has been one single task force that consisted of two Kongo battleships and two destroyers. I got advance radio notice of the TF, intercepted it, and sank one of the Kongos. __________________ We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

04-28-08, 06:15 PM	#4
Quillan Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 579 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I think I'm about to get right in the middle of the Marianas Island campaign. In my most recent patrol, I left June 12, 1944 from Majuro, ordered to deploy to the Straits of Luzon. So far, between 13 June and 16 June, I've had a host of flash traffic messages of massive IJN naval movement, all heading northeast in the direction of the Phillipine Sea. I did a little cut/paste in Photoshop to show you: Let's see what I can find. So far, if the reports are accurate, it's at least 6 battleships, 4 fleet carriers and 11 cruisers, plus assorted other escorts and oilers. Wish me luck. __________________ We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. Last edited by Quillan; 04-29-08 at 08:12 AM.

04-28-08, 06:27 PM	#5
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	The thing with RSRD is Lurker has created something very similar to what was experienced on patrols during WW2. Days upon days of nothing; then you find what you came out to find. It sort of makes you very aggressive to get a sinking! Sure, it would seem to be a cheat of sorts if you know when a major battle will take place and attempt to make it, but, as much as I have played with this mod, I have yet to be remotely close. You do get reports and with any luck, you are around to attempt a intercept. Rest assured, the ships are there to sink. Just have to find them. A successful patrol is bagging 2-3 vessels. Do this over a course of 5-6 patrols and you will move up to new construction. Most importantly, complete the assigned patrol area. I will not say that RSRD will frustrate you. It will...just as frustrated as the skipper and crews who patrolled for days and had nothing to show for it. Then, out of nowhere, your watch sees a vessel or vessels and all hell breaks loose. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road Last edited by AVGWarhawk; 04-29-08 at 07:50 AM.

04-29-08, 07:34 AM	#6
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	I started a career in Task Force 8.5 out of Dutch Harbour and sailing East. Thought I'd never find an enemy TF but I ran into one heading towards Kiska Island which was as accurate since the Japanese occupied the island. Sank one Light Cruiser and a Freighter in an S-18. Sailing with the sun behind you is advantageous. __________________ "Silence means death. Stand on your feet. Inner fear your worst enemy."- Sepultura. My Silent Hunter 5 mantra is this......"Torpedo missed, sir!" A P-400 is a P-40 with a Zero after it. A proud member of the Wikipedia Haters Club

04-28-08, 04:38 PM	#1
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Dont tell me , i dont want to know . Imagine my jubilation after finding something after 2 patrols with nothing

04-28-08, 05:57 PM	#3
Soundman Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 617 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Well Quillan, you are having much better luck than I ! That's the kind of action I've been awaiting. I should have mentioned, I too, am running TMO along with RSRDC. I'm not complaining by any means. I'm thrilled with the gameplay and very appreciative to the modders. Maybe I've just had bad luck and/or need to be more patient. I must also admit I've changed carreers so many times due to the constant improvements with this game, that the farthest I've been into the war is maybe late 1943, early 1944. Although I've probably completed well over a 150 patrols, I have yet to run into a major IJN convoy, or even a battleship. Once I did come across a lone carrier and managed to put her down, but shortly thererafter, a new patch surfaced and like many others, started a new carreer. I'm dying to come across the "Yamatto" or anything close to a "battleship". I'll hang in there, what a great game this is. On the other hand, it must be the thrill of the hunt and the wish for the perfect quarry, keeping us all interested in playing. I am a true simmer at heart, whether it be a modern sim such as Dangerous Waters or my all time favorite, Falcon 4.0. (Yeah Multivipers!) To close, my targeting has become superb, I just feel the need for more of a challenge than just merchants. Bring on the big boys!

04-30-08, 09:52 AM	#8
Soundman Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 617 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	UPDATE! Hooray! Maybe I just needed to open my mouth for something to happen. Last night I finally ran accross a Task Force. No big boats, but 3 various DD's. Today I go home and see if I can put all three under with no damage to myself.