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Old 04-23-08, 03:18 PM   #1
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If America wants to regain at least some part of it'S moral credibility, it has to stop and ban full-scale torture: and nothing else waterboarding is. It is enforced drowning and stopping it at the last moment. In movies on WWII, you can soemtimes see the past interpretation of waterboarding: holding the subjects and pushing it'S head into a bathtube full of water.

What's the difference to today's more economic use of water? the answer is simple: none.
Yadda yadda yadda. I bet Germany wants us to give up our nukes too. After we do that, they will say, to live in peace, you must now give up your weapons too. Then they will say, to get rid of all crime, you must have you rresidents give up their guns now.

2 Weeks after all this happens, news headlines read - Germany conquers America virtually unchallenged!

Caption would read - Germany says, "We did it for the American peoples own good".

Then if you aren't blond and blue eyed.....

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I am offended, really. That is SO not funny.
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Old 04-23-08, 03:40 PM   #2
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Have ya got a head start on Hillary,Obama and McCain Skybird?...

One of them will be your next target of finger pointing and I just wonder if you already have a good amount of dirt on each of them....

let the stone tossing commence Skybird and let ole GWB off the hook now...I Love You MAN!
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Old 04-23-08, 03:59 PM   #3
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I am offended, really. That is SO not funny.
It wasn't meant to be funny. If you're offended, don't read it. Can't please everybody. It's the only logical conclusion I can come up with against Skybirds constant anti-US bashing that seems to be every day. What else can he be after?

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Old 04-23-08, 05:03 PM   #4
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Nothing is going to change what government bodies will do to local and foreign captive in there secret prisons. It doesn't matter whos flag flies ontop of the prison. All contries in some form or way do it weither they say it openly or not.

This is what happens to citizen who don't follow state rule or spies getting caught and more.

Anyhow were all animals and we will treat each other like animal till one day we will evolve.

I don't see that day comming anytime soon.:hmm:
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Old 04-23-08, 05:22 PM   #5
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Nothing is going to change what government bodies will do to local and foreign captive in there secret prisons. It doesn't matter whos flag flies ontop of the prison. All contries in some form or way do it weither they say it openly or not.

This is what happens to citizen who don't follow state rule or spies getting caught and more.

Anyhow were all animals and we will treat each other like animal till one day we will evolve.

I don't see that day comming anytime soon.:hmm:
I don't think this thread is about that, though I do value your opinions and think they are correct. It is more about not bending to Germany's will. Anyone that doesn't bend to their will is bad in their book and given this type of treatment. Here is another example:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...548749,00.html

This German mag doesn't like this guy for the same reason they don't like the US. That is why I am tired of it. Anti US bashing is the norm from 90% of SB's posts.

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PS. Sorry if I offended anyone. Its in the name of ending this anti-US bashing by some members here. It is not meant to offend anyone here.
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Old 04-23-08, 05:32 PM   #6
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Torture never produced proper and accurate info ....and it never will. And people who thinks it does watched too many Hollywood videos and are gullible fools.
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Old 04-23-08, 05:51 PM   #7
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My opinion on water boarding has not changed

If it was done on US troops by our enemy would we consider it

1. Enhanced interrogation and therefore it is not a problem
2. Torture and we would raise holy stink

I believe that most people would opt for answer 2. I know I would.

Given that, if we would believe it would be torture if done to our troops, why would it be justified if done on their troops?

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Old 04-23-08, 05:58 PM   #8
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Torture and we would raise holy stink. And the biggest stinks will be from the herd that says it's okay to do it to others.
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Old 04-23-08, 06:13 PM   #9
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Anti US bashing is the norm from 90% of SB's posts.

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Actually I think it's anti-administration bashing. Thats permissible.
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Old 04-23-08, 09:00 PM   #10
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I don't think this thread is about that, though I do value your opinions and think they are correct. .
Well thankyou for valuing my point.

See I don't care about what language people speaks. I don't care what colour of skin anyone has, tatooed or not. I don't care weither people are nude or are fully robed. I don't care what beer anyone drinks. Christ if I give a damb what religion people worship. I sure is don't give a rats behind what colour of briefs or boxers people wear too. What I do give a damb about is why are we still acting like savages towards each other. Are we not suppose to be evolve to our stone aged counterparts? The only thing different then and now is we have perfected in a fasters and more efficient ways in torturing and killing. Socially were still living in the stone age clubing each other to death.

People also fail to see that nation bashing is what drives hatred and keeps fears and ignorance. It doesn't matter if is just americans or Germans or chinese or russians or any nations, torture or killing isn't a solution or acceptable at any level. We will never learn from our past if we keep repeating it over and over again.

Problem is there are powerful interest groups who don't want change. Who like it just the way it is.
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Old 04-23-08, 05:15 PM   #11
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I am offended, really. That is SO not funny.
It wasn't meant to be funny. If you're offended, don't read it. Can't please everybody. It's the only logical conclusion I can come up with against Skybirds constant anti-US bashing that seems to be every day. What else can he be after?

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How is he going to know he will be offended by it if he doesn't read it in the first place?
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