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Old 04-23-08, 11:15 AM   #16
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And for every scientist saying anything pro global warming, you have 2 saying they are incorrect.
Did you just make that up or is there some survey conducted of "world scientists" that backs up your claim?
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Old 04-23-08, 11:29 AM   #17
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inflating the dollar into uselessness,
Care to explain what Bush did to inflate the dollar?
Expanding the war on terror and spending out the ass on programs that do nothing. No one even seems to care anymore that the dollar is crashing so hard they can feel it in the third world.

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Gore? Are you serious? He is the biggest idiot to ever run for Pres! This whole thread wouldn't even be here if he were a little smarter. Yes, maybe their are idiots in AMerica - approximately 1/3rd of them believe Gore's BS.
That's a good conservative! Don't even explain why Gore was a bad idea! And if you do, be sure to take lots of out of context quotes and ad hominem him to death! Then whine and moan whenever someone does the same to a conservative icon!

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Did you just make that up or is there some survey of "world scientists" that backs up your claim?
Of course, he won't prove it. And if "tries" to, he'll just post some random links from bumjack scientists number X whom convienently no one knows of and if they do have already labeled a crackpot.

I love how subman has gone out of his way to show he doesn't even know how the scientific method works.

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Believe what you want on creationism, since you can't explain some things any other way - science has no explanation when it even comes to human kindness.
Oh I see, you're a fundy wacknut. Typical. Nevermind that morality and emotion existed long before religion did. Nevermind that the last people in the world who should be lecturing everyone else on morality are the religious. First rule of fundamentalist arguing, go out of your way to blatently misrepresent history.

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As for scientific study - that works only when all scientists are in agreement, so you can flush that argument down the toilet too.
Bingo! You don't even know how the scientific method works! Second rule of fundy argumentation! Act as if the science is a democratic institution and that if it can't prove something 100%, then it must be better to go with the theory that is obviously LESS accurate. Like religion! I love it when creationsts just treat all of science like it's some kind of politically motivated party out to get them. They simply have no concept of anything else.
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Old 04-23-08, 11:30 AM   #18
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And for every scientist saying anything pro global warming, you have 2 saying they are incorrect.
Did you just make that up or is there some survey conducted of "world scientists" that backs up your claim?
Show me the thousands of scientists first. And yes, I have read that in some paper before.

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Old 04-23-08, 11:32 AM   #19
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inflating the dollar into uselessness,
Care to explain what Bush did to inflate the dollar?
Expanding the war on terror and spending out the ass on programs that do nothing. No one even seems to care anymore that the dollar is crashing so hard they can feel it in the third world.

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Gore? Are you serious? He is the biggest idiot to ever run for Pres! This whole thread wouldn't even be here if he were a little smarter. Yes, maybe their are idiots in AMerica - approximately 1/3rd of them believe Gore's BS.
That's a good conservative! Don't even explain why Gore was a bad idea! And if you do, be sure to take lots of out of context quotes and ad hominem him to death! Then whine and moan whenever someone does the same to a conservative icon!

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Did you just make that up or is there some survey of "world scientists" that backs up your claim?
Of course, he won't prove it. And if "tries" to, he'll just post some random links from bumjack scientists number X whom convienently no one knows of and if they do have already labeled a crackpot.

I love how subman has gone out of his way to show he doesn't even know how the scientific method works.

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Believe what you want on creationism, since you can't explain some things any other way - science has no explanation when it even comes to human kindness.
Oh I see, you're a fundy wacknut. Typical. Nevermind that morality and emotion existed long before religion did. Nevermind that the last people in the world who should be lecturing everyone else on morality are the religious. First rule of fundamentalist arguing, go out of your way to blatently misrepresent history.

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As for scientific study - that works only when all scientists are in agreement, so you can flush that argument down the toilet too.
Bingo! You don't even know how the scientific method works! Second rule of fundy argumentation! Act as if the science is a democratic institution and that if it can't prove something 100%, then it must be better to go with the theory that is obviously LESS accurate. Like religion! I love it when creationsts just treat all of science like it's some kind of politically motivated party out to get them. They simply have no concept of anything else.
Perfect. Wanted to hear how whacked you really are. THis pretty much explains it.

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Old 04-23-08, 11:36 AM   #20
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Bin Laden at his finger tips? When? SHow me something on that.

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I'm guessing that he is referring to the Tora Bora situation in the early stages of the Afghan war.
Does it really matter? Only an idiot like Bush would expand the war on terror as quickly and as beligerantly as possible thus giving every warlord in the middle east the proof they need to make people think America is out to get Islam. It obviously isn't, but that's not going to matter to John Suicide Bomber now is it? It's always the same circle of death for that country. No one has ever taken the time to sit down and figure out WHY America is in a perpetual state of war when it's so clear. But who cares right? Kill the terrorists now and they'll leave me alone until I get my pension and that's all that matters right? I'm sure all of the grudges created during the Iraq war will all just magically dissappear. And if they don't, well, it's only my kids problem right?
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Old 04-23-08, 11:37 AM   #21
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Perfect. Wanted to hear how whacked you really are. THis pretty much explains it.

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Posture more. I'm getting bored.
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Old 04-23-08, 11:41 AM   #22
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Perfect. Wanted to hear how whacked you really are. THis pretty much explains it.

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Posture more. I'm getting bored.
Oh - me first! I was bored long ago with your extreme left wing rhetoric, that lacks any real substance (even look at your previos post to this one - same thing rhetoric without substance). Hence my post.

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Old 04-23-08, 12:12 PM   #23
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And for every scientist saying anything pro global warming, you have 2 saying they are incorrect.
Did you just make that up or is there some survey conducted of "world scientists" that backs up your claim?
Show me the thousands of scientists first. And yes, I have read that in some paper before.

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If I had said that there were thousands of scientists in the affirmitive and few in the negative I would have provided evidence to back up that position. But I didn't make any such claim for the simple reason that I do not know.

You however did claim that for every scientist that held a "pro global warming" position there were two scientists who held the opposite view. So instead of coming back with a "you show first" stance how about presenting something to back your claim up?
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Old 04-23-08, 12:37 PM   #24
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I think there is a tendency with the Global Warming issue for the GW folks to not look at the full time line.

They make statements about things that have happened "in our lifetime" and they make statements suggesting that the state of our climate is the worst since records began.

The reality is that this climate has been evolving for millions of years, and to make any kind of judgement based on a couple of hundred years of record keeping would be like a Doctor making a medical judgement on the condition of a patient based on a one minute assesment out of a 80 year lifespan.

I think there is also a tendency for people on both sides of this argument to cherry pick the data and include only the information that supports their position.

My belief is that the planet is going through a natural cycle, and that such cycles can last for a 100 years or more. Add to that the effect of sun spots and other solar activity and you can explain much of the GW activity.

Could we and should we do as much as possible to minimize our impact on our planet's continued development? Absolutely. Do we need to worry about doom and gloom predictions from people like Al Gore? Absolutely not.
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Why bother with data collection, analysis, field study or in-depth studies when we can
just see what Americans reckon about it.

Depending upon those more informed than our selves is sooo 20th century. Now we
can learn about the world through the rantings of the most vocal mob. This is clearly
the way forward.

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At least in America, we still have our brains.
You know Subman, its funny but everytime you spam out this forum with thread after thread after thread, you seem to want prove the exact opposite of that statement. :hmm:
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Says the guy from a country that spies on the level of garbage in its citizens trash cans. Actually now that i think about it a little it all fits...
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Why bother with data collection, analysis, field study or in-depth studies when we can just see what Americans reckon about it.
Says the guy from a country that spies on the level of garbage in its citizens trash cans. Actually now that i think about it a little it all fits...
August,Do you know what a 'non sequitur' is? Just wondering.
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Why bother with data collection, analysis, field study or in-depth studies when we can just see what Americans reckon about it.
Says the guy from a country that spies on the level of garbage in its citizens trash cans. Actually now that i think about it a little it all fits...
August,Do you know what a 'non sequitur' is? Just wondering.
Sure i do. Apparently you just don't like responses in kind.
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Why bother with data collection, analysis, field study or in-depth studies when we can just see what Americans reckon about it.
Says the guy from a country that spies on the level of garbage in its citizens trash cans. Actually now that i think about it a little it all fits...
August,Do you know what a 'non sequitur' is? Just wondering.
Sure i do. Apparently you just don't like responses in kind.
That would be,"No", then.
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