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Old 04-23-08, 10:45 AM   #1
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Your point being?

Scientific study is not a matter for voting on, I heard somewhere that a sizeable number of Americans believe in creationism.
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Old 04-23-08, 10:46 AM   #2
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Your point being?

Scientific study is not a matter for voting on, I heard somewhere that a sizeable number of Americans believe in creationism.
The scientific study of onloy a handful of scientists known for hyping garbage? Sure.

At least in America, we still have our brains.

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Old 04-23-08, 10:47 AM   #3
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Your point being?

Scientific study is not a matter for voting on, I heard somewhere that a sizeable number of Americans believe in creationism.
The scientific study of onloy a handful of scientists known for hyping garbage? Sure.

At least in America, we still have our brains.

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We're talking about the same country that voted for President George W. Monkey Boy not once, but twice.
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Old 04-23-08, 10:50 AM   #4
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We're talking about the same country that voted for President George W. Monkey Boy not once, but twice.
For lack of a better alternative. And, if you look at his track record, its not that bad.

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Old 04-23-08, 10:57 AM   #5
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We're talking about the same country that voted for President George W. Monkey Boy not once, but twice.
For lack of a better alternative. And, if you look at his track record, its not that bad.

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Lack of a better alternative my ass, Gore schooled Bush on every point during the pre election policy debates, but Americans didn't vote for him because he sounded "arrogant" while he was wiping the floor with GW. Americans have a cultural AVERSION to intellectuals which they've proven over and over again.

Oh yes, i'm sure historians will look at George's track record and totally forget the parts about ignoring the Bill of Rights, inflating the dollar into uselessness, and expanding the war on terror into a pointlessly protracted campaign when he had Bin Laden right at his fingertips.
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Old 04-23-08, 11:01 AM   #6
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inflating the dollar into uselessness,
Care to explain what Bush did to inflate the dollar?
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inflating the dollar into uselessness,
Care to explain what Bush did to inflate the dollar?
Expanding the war on terror and spending out the ass on programs that do nothing. No one even seems to care anymore that the dollar is crashing so hard they can feel it in the third world.

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Gore? Are you serious? He is the biggest idiot to ever run for Pres! This whole thread wouldn't even be here if he were a little smarter. Yes, maybe their are idiots in AMerica - approximately 1/3rd of them believe Gore's BS.
That's a good conservative! Don't even explain why Gore was a bad idea! And if you do, be sure to take lots of out of context quotes and ad hominem him to death! Then whine and moan whenever someone does the same to a conservative icon!

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Did you just make that up or is there some survey of "world scientists" that backs up your claim?
Of course, he won't prove it. And if "tries" to, he'll just post some random links from bumjack scientists number X whom convienently no one knows of and if they do have already labeled a crackpot.

I love how subman has gone out of his way to show he doesn't even know how the scientific method works.

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Believe what you want on creationism, since you can't explain some things any other way - science has no explanation when it even comes to human kindness.
Oh I see, you're a fundy wacknut. Typical. Nevermind that morality and emotion existed long before religion did. Nevermind that the last people in the world who should be lecturing everyone else on morality are the religious. First rule of fundamentalist arguing, go out of your way to blatently misrepresent history.

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As for scientific study - that works only when all scientists are in agreement, so you can flush that argument down the toilet too.
Bingo! You don't even know how the scientific method works! Second rule of fundy argumentation! Act as if the science is a democratic institution and that if it can't prove something 100%, then it must be better to go with the theory that is obviously LESS accurate. Like religion! I love it when creationsts just treat all of science like it's some kind of politically motivated party out to get them. They simply have no concept of anything else.
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Lack of a better alternative my ass, Gore schooled Bush on every point during the pre election policy debates, but Americans didn't vote for him because he sounded "arrogant" while he was wiping the floor with GW. Americans have a cultural AVERSION to intellectuals which they've proven over and over again.
Gore? Are you serious? He is the biggest idiot to ever run for Pres! This whole thread wouldn't even be here if he were a little smarter. Yes, maybe their are idiots in AMerica - approximately 1/3rd of them believe Gore's BS.

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Oh yes, i'm sure historians will look at George's track record and totally forget the parts about ignoring the Bill of Rights, inflating the dollar into uselessness, and expanding the war on terror into a pointlessly protracted campaign when he had Bin Laden right at his fingertips.
Bill of rights - I'm a little in your camp on that one. This is mainly due to Congresses failure in keeping with checks and balances however.

Dollar - this is great news in my book. Stopped outsourcing dead in its tracks. There is more behind this than you seem to realize. Good place for you to start is to study up on why China keeps its currency artificially low.

Bin Laden at his finger tips? When? SHow me something on that.

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Bin Laden at his finger tips? When? SHow me something on that.

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I'm guessing that he is referring to the Tora Bora situation in the early stages of the Afghan war.
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Old 04-25-08, 10:20 AM   #10
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Yes, maybe their are idiots in AMerica

Sorry S, I had to. :rotfl:
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Old 04-24-08, 08:32 AM   #11
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We're talking about the same country that voted for President George W. Monkey Boy not once, but twice.
For lack of a better alternative. And, if you look at his track record, its not that bad.

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and expanding the war on terror into a pointlessly protracted campaign when he had Bin Laden right at his fingertips.

Say what!....Please let the record show that back in the mid-90's the Algerians had Bin-Laden IN CUSTODY....and asked the US State department if we were "interested in him".

NOTHING WAS DONE!....

Seem like old Bill was to busy playing with his cigar!
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Old 04-24-08, 08:38 AM   #12
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that's a pretty lame argument, canonicus. I'm surprised you bothered to write it
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Old 04-24-08, 01:07 AM   #13
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Your point being?

Scientific study is not a matter for voting on, I heard somewhere that a sizeable number of Americans believe in creationism.
The scientific study of onloy a handful of scientists known for hyping garbage? Sure.

At least in America, we still have our brains.

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You have brains... but do you use them?:hmm:

To add to TDK's post, yes, Earth's temperatures have been evolving since the creation of it roughly 4.5 billion years ago... and yes, we shouldn't all jump to the conclusion that recent warming with Earth is spelling out our doom as Al Gore says, but what we can't afford is to ignore the simple fact that our climate is changing, and whatever the cause may be, we need to keep our minds open and our sense about us. We need to remember that we play half the game in heating Earth's surface and we do cause some of the problems with the greenhouse effect, though the other half is natural.

Are temperatures up? Yes. Is the pollution level up (this includes CFCs)? Yes. Should we be concerned? Yes. Should we think this is our doom? Certainly not. Should we start focusing more on studying the cycles Earth goes through? Absolutely. Should we try to decrease the amount of pollutants we emit (including carbon dioxide)? Absolutely.
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Good post, Stealth Hunter.
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