Free the olympics!

Platapus · 04-17-08, 11:15 AM

Do you have a citation in English?

I follow this stuff and have not seen this mentioned in my other sources. Since I can't read German, I can't comment on whether this article is accurate or not.

Nothing on BBC and nothing on France24 which are usually pretty up to date on this stuff.

Skybird · 04-17-08, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Do you have a citation in English?

I follow this stuff and have not seen this mentioned in my other sources. Since I can't read German, I can't comment on whether this article is accurate or not.

Nothing on BBC and nothing on France24 which are usually pretty up to date on this stuff.

It was just in, so I assume the English souces will follow soon.

When I pick something in German I quick-check with Google and the usual British and American e-papers if there is an English article on it as wel, preferrably on page 1. But I do not spend an hour with it... If I do not find something within 5 min utes, I give the German source.

Platapus · 04-17-08, 11:28 AM

Great I will look forward with great interest when this story comes in.

I won't automatically buy into the "china is bad" paradigm though until I read about the whole issue.

As in many issues, there is probably more to it than is first reported.

Skybird · 04-17-08, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Do you have a citation in English?

I follow this stuff and have not seen this mentioned in my other sources. Since I can't read German, I can't comment on whether this article is accurate or not.

Nothing on BBC and nothing on France24 which are usually pretty up to date on this stuff.

It was just in, so I assume the English souces will follow soon.

When I pick something in German I quick-check with Google and the usual British and American e-papers if there is an English article on it as wel, preferrably on page 1. But I do not spend an hour with it... If I do not find something within 5 min utes, I give the German source.

Another Germa source:

FAZ reports that since three weeks no multiple visa are given anymore, a German tourist company was told in a letter from the Chinese embassy - but the official emblem on the Chinese embassy on the top of the official letter-paper had been covered by the Chinese. For business people, the Viasa restrictions already have caused international anger, especially in Asia. There seem to be some confusion, writes the FAZ, about the banning of foreign students - it is possible that they had not gotten the order in writing, but verbally only.

http://www.faz.net/s/RubEC1ACFE1EE27...~Scontent.html

Catfish · 04-17-08, 12:07 PM

Hello,
they just do not understand - the wise chinese government just does not want crowded cities - imagine what could happen with all this jostling on the streets. The poor fellows. ..

This is all so ridiculous and obvious as well - i wonder how any politician and manager can still stand up and defend any position to support this dictatorship. Liars, all of them.

Catfish

Skybird · 04-17-08, 06:59 PM

A third German source - the internet-site of a weekly magazine comparing to Der Spiegel - now confirms restrictions on Visa, and the situation concerning the banning of foreign students to be confused and unclear. At least two universities in Bejing have confirmed the ban so far, however. The Chinese foreign ministry so far does not comment and neither confirms nor rejects. Maybe they play the waiting game to see if they can get through with it without spiking major international protests, and if not, claim to have been misunderstood from the beginning.

http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/...id_295798.html
http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/...id_295917.html

Catfish · 04-17-08, 11:36 AM

Hello,
i am sure Skybird already said all about China and its regime, and more

But i really wonder what those organizations, if they are not directly making money with it, have to say why anyone should support these games in China ? Because it helps the people ?! Well only recently wages have doubled in China, they are now at 30 cents - great !
"It will help the people in the long run" - yes it took 9 years from 1936 to a real new beginning when the whole world supported Hitler's olympic games. If those games served anyone it was Hitler, and the same will happen in China and to their hilarious communist party.

A company like Google directly supports censorship, Audi, VW and whatnot even more, and China announces they have found weapons of mass destruction in Tibetan temples :rotfl:... those Audis can kill a lot of people in the right hands i'm sure.
We should take all those managers that shoved industries over to China, and never let them come back again. Maybe they don't want at all anymore after a month of traditional chinese brainwashing.

Greetings,
Catfish

04-17-08, 11:15 AM	#1
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,365 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Do you have a citation in English? I follow this stuff and have not seen this mentioned in my other sources. Since I can't read German, I can't comment on whether this article is accurate or not. Nothing on BBC and nothing on France24 which are usually pretty up to date on this stuff. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

04-17-08, 11:28 AM	#3
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,365 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Great I will look forward with great interest when this story comes in. I won't automatically buy into the "china is bad" paradigm though until I read about the whole issue. As in many issues, there is probably more to it than is first reported. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

04-17-08, 06:59 PM	#6
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,629 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	A third German source - the internet-site of a weekly magazine comparing to Der Spiegel - now confirms restrictions on Visa, and the situation concerning the banning of foreign students to be confused and unclear. At least two universities in Bejing have confirmed the ban so far, however. The Chinese foreign ministry so far does not comment and neither confirms nor rejects. Maybe they play the waiting game to see if they can get through with it without spiking major international protests, and if not, claim to have been misunderstood from the beginning. http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/...id_295798.html http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/...id_295917.html __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-17-08, 12:07 PM	#5
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,766 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello, they just do not understand - the wise chinese government just does not want crowded cities - imagine what could happen with all this jostling on the streets. The poor fellows. .. This is all so ridiculous and obvious as well - i wonder how any politician and manager can still stand up and defend any position to support this dictatorship. Liars, all of them. Catfish

04-17-08, 11:36 AM	#7
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,766 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello, i am sure Skybird already said all about China and its regime, and more But i really wonder what those organizations, if they are not directly making money with it, have to say why anyone should support these games in China ? Because it helps the people ?! Well only recently wages have doubled in China, they are now at 30 cents - great ! "It will help the people in the long run" - yes it took 9 years from 1936 to a real new beginning when the whole world supported Hitler's olympic games. If those games served anyone it was Hitler, and the same will happen in China and to their hilarious communist party. A company like Google directly supports censorship, Audi, VW and whatnot even more, and China announces they have found weapons of mass destruction in Tibetan temples :rotfl:... those Audis can kill a lot of people in the right hands i'm sure. We should take all those managers that shoved industries over to China, and never let them come back again. Maybe they don't want at all anymore after a month of traditional chinese brainwashing. Greetings, Catfish