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Old 04-16-08, 09:22 AM   #1
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Do I see the elemenets of OLC's GUI comming into SH4 ????



Now we just have to convince OLC to play SH4 and port over his entire GUI

Thanks for taking this first step. I look forward to seeing more stuff like this one.
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Old 04-16-08, 10:12 AM   #2
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One of these days I will learn how to use that piece of work!!!!!!! Thanks for getting to work in SH4 and OLC for making that puppy
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Old 04-16-08, 02:21 PM   #3
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Was there something to do the same in US boats other than the methods we have currently?
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Old 04-16-08, 02:29 PM   #4
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Well....it's a start

OK, so we're about a third of the way there. I'll be happy when everything works as in SH3. Otherwise, other targeting methods are far less cumbersome. Also the mod needs to be installable with JSGME. Good progress so far. You're not done!
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Old 04-16-08, 02:39 PM   #5
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Was there something to do the same in US boats other than the methods we have currently?
Yes and no. Basically, US method to get the target data involved:

1.- Plotting
2.- Use of the position keeper in the TDC (Comparing against target bearings, etc)
3.- Constant bearing
4.- Estimating

German methods to get target data involved:

1.- Plotting
2.- Specific tools (AOB finder like this example, and fixed wire speed measuring)
3.- Constant bearing
4.- Estimating

So they had many similarities except in nº 2

There was however a slide rule used aboard US ships to allow measuring angle on the bow if target data were well known. The principle is the same as the german circular slide ruler shown in this thread.

I think it would be very easy to implement this in the game, because all that is needed is to add the fixed scales in the periscope background and then add a draggable image with the moveable ones

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Old 04-16-08, 02:48 PM   #6
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Now Do It Now
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Was there something to do the same in US boats other than the methods we have currently?
Yes and no. Basically, US method to get the target data involved:

1.- Plotting
2.- Use of the position keeper in the TDC (Comparing against target bearings, etc)
3.- Constant bearing
4.- Estimating

German methods to get target data involved:

1.- Plotting
2.- Specific tools (AOB finder like this example, and fixed wire speed measuring)
3.- Constant bearing
4.- Estimating

So they had many similarities except in nº 2
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The U.S. had stadimeters had course angle finders to measure target angle using the same principle as the range finder.
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Old 04-16-08, 04:38 PM   #8
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Apparently both the US and German stadimeters could be rotated 90 degrees, and used horizontally to find AOB? OLC mentioned it in his gui manual, and many have mentioned it in the sh4 forums.

It sounds to me that US and German boats had similar tools available, they just had different tactics for using them.
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