Evading Escorts- Time Compression does NOT guarantee detection!

Bosje · 04-14-08, 08:40 AM

That may be related to the early war, I can verify TC not being a guaranteed give-away in 1940, used TC plenty of times waiting for the destroyers to use up their depthcharges some 100 meters behind me.

but

I have also seen destroyers running straight back to my position some time after they had gone back to the convoy. This happened several times when i used x32 compression while NOT silent (2/3 speed, reloading tubes while ascending back up to Pdepth)

Also

I got noticed by a sleeping destroyer parked in scapa flow while i passed close by. that was in stock SH3. I am pretty sure I had silent running on but was making more than 100rpm, he woke up and went after me in the shallows almost as soon as I put on TC (like you, I dont always have the time to sit out the 3 hour sneaking in real time)

So far in GWX, I have used Time Compression without being detected, but always when very silent. (silent running and below 100rpm)

certainly in 1940 this has been perfectly safe for me so far.

My conclusions based on my observations up to this point are:
-Time compression is safe as long as you remain absolutely silent, relative to the enemy's abilities
-If the enemy is theoretically able to detect you, they WILL detect you when you use time compression.

So for later war years i suspect TC becomes unsafe at any time whenever they are actively searching for you, in 1940 you are safe at silent running below 100rpm, whether at 1x or 64x is immaterial.

Umfuld · 04-14-08, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosje

So far in GWX, I have used Time Compression without being detected

See, that's me too. I would have bet my life that TC did cost you when at 1x you'd be safe, but since using GWX2.0 I've found this not to be the case. And I've started to get bolder the more I've played, still not a problem.

Jimbuna · 04-14-08, 01:27 PM

The real problem with high tc is that if you commit an error that leads to your detection, the resultant consequence may have quite easily taken place before you are able to react

Phaedrus · 04-14-08, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

The real problem with high tc is that if you commit an error that leads to your detection, the resultant consequence may have quite easily taken place before you are able to react

Agreed.

I frequently use TC to clear the area after an attack, but if I'm actively being depth charged, it's best to keep it at 1 or maybe 4 or 8 (if they don't know what they're doing).

The key is using your hydrophones and trying to keep the boat at a proper profile to the attacking escorts.... if you're running at 32 you might get caught broadside.
Late war, half the battle is evading the first escort before the other escorts can get there to join the hunt. When you've got the one pinging you while another two make DC runs, you're into some trouble.

That being said.... I strongly advise against using TC if you happen to get jumped by a Hunter-Killer group.

With run of the mill escorts its not a big deal.... but HK's are lean and mean.

04-14-08, 08:40 AM	#1
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	That may be related to the early war, I can verify TC not being a guaranteed give-away in 1940, used TC plenty of times waiting for the destroyers to use up their depthcharges some 100 meters behind me. but I have also seen destroyers running straight back to my position some time after they had gone back to the convoy. This happened several times when i used x32 compression while NOT silent (2/3 speed, reloading tubes while ascending back up to Pdepth) Also I got noticed by a sleeping destroyer parked in scapa flow while i passed close by. that was in stock SH3. I am pretty sure I had silent running on but was making more than 100rpm, he woke up and went after me in the shallows almost as soon as I put on TC (like you, I dont always have the time to sit out the 3 hour sneaking in real time) So far in GWX, I have used Time Compression without being detected, but always when very silent. (silent running and below 100rpm) certainly in 1940 this has been perfectly safe for me so far. My conclusions based on my observations up to this point are: -Time compression is safe as long as you remain absolutely silent, relative to the enemy's abilities -If the enemy is theoretically able to detect you, they WILL detect you when you use time compression. So for later war years i suspect TC becomes unsafe at any time whenever they are actively searching for you, in 1940 you are safe at silent running below 100rpm, whether at 1x or 64x is immaterial. __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen!

04-14-08, 01:27 PM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,742 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The real problem with high tc is that if you commit an error that leads to your detection, the resultant consequence may have quite easily taken place before you are able to react __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!