kaleun in distress

Bosje · 04-13-08, 08:41 PM

the destroyers pissed off just now, they got bored after giving me some pretty screenshots

I did it, blew all ballast and gradually increased speed while planes are on rise

it worked, i just surfaced. here is the odd thing though: when i order flank ahead the engines stop. full speed is no problem but she wont do flank...

thats probably why i dropped back down, failed to notice the engine not going to flank what with all the stuff going on around me.

a nice (nasty) surprise from the damage model? engines so screwed up by damage they dont function properly anymore?

edit: pheadrus, take on the taskforce, its fun

i sank all 5 destroyers in the warburton group on the 9th/10th
this screenshot is the escort of the battleship on the 13th, i'm going back in there

GoldenRivet · 04-13-08, 08:46 PM

Has ahead flank worked before this attack?

are you using SH3 commander?

If i were you i would make the best possible speed for home waters

Bosje · 04-13-08, 09:22 PM

yeah the boat was fine before, except she had a tough time getting a good speed in the wild seas. hmmm...

i have malfunctions enabled on SH3 but i never got any message saying the engines are in any way screwed up. that a normal thing to happen?

i do know that after the attack, speed is down to 1/3 of the usual on all the different speeds, and flank doesnt work at all.

possibly a malfunction which i am not told about but which means my engines are bad this entire patrol? possible some collateral damage from the attack? all compartments are fully functional but she drives like a rowing boat

Stealth Hunter · 04-13-08, 10:06 PM

Could very likely have been a malfunction. Crew might not have reported it due to inexperience.

Anyway, glad you got back to the surface! I've had some close calls like that before. Had my VIIC sink to 230 meters, and I thought I was dead. Massive depth charging had destroyed my radio and blown a huge hole in the forward crew quarters area. Water was flooding into the torpedo room, forward crew quarters, and the radio room (along with a bit of flooding in the control room). We sank quite quickly, and when the depth meter went to an extreme, I was certain I was doomed. At the last minute, however, I heard a thud and we stopped falling, although we took a bit of damage upon hitting the sea floor around Tunisia.

GoldenRivet · 04-13-08, 10:09 PM

in my experience the crew WONT report malfunctions or sabotage... as this is not even modeled in the stock game thus the AI does not know it is a condition requiring a report.

If you order ahead flank and nothing happens, thats your only way of knowing... if you didnt use ahead flank in the whole patrol until that point... well there you go.

Bosje · 04-13-08, 10:18 PM

Well I did engage and destroy the warburton-lee group, I cant specifically remember but i really think i used flank speed at some point or other. anyway, its a challenging thing to be met by malfunctions like this. my boat seemed slow before the destroyer runs but afterwards she was even slower, if that makes sense

oh and i just want to share this:

the taskforce returned, i was trying to get into position but i was too far away. i watched all those destroyers sail by on the horizon

but wait... where was the Nelson?

turns out she must have engine trouble as well, perhaps from that 1 torpedo i got under her keel before all the trouble started

sonar contact way behind the escorts, got in position in time to fire my last 2 torpedoes from 1500 meters

boom, dead, done

now limping back to base, gonna take a while but the navigator says we can make it, we still have half of our fuel left.

thanks for all the help, glad to still be alive

Platapus · 04-14-08, 05:38 AM

Wow, these types of "adventures" really make the game exciting.

Sitting on the bottom, just barely holding on, willing the destroyers to leave you alone just this once, fixing all the damage but realizing that you have one chance only to make it to the surface.

Man I love this game!

Glad you got out of it. We build them good in Germany eh Hienny

Bosje · 04-14-08, 06:41 AM

amen to that!

hats off to the GWX team
btw i love that wolf in the zeppelin, lol (unless thats a historically accurate sniffer dog in there, lol)

Umfuld · 04-14-08, 08:10 AM

Coming to all stop when setting speed to Flank is a SH3 Malfunction I have had before. Sounds like it might be the case.

It really is a sound move to run through everything when you leave port. Test all the speeds, diving and surfacing, the guns, etc. They aren't the sort of things you want to find out about in the heat of battle.
I know you say you think you must have used Flank before then, but if you test everything you won't have to think, you'll know.

Nice job getting out of that tight spot, by the way.

Tessa · 04-15-08, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosje

yeah the boat was fine before, except she had a tough time getting a good speed in the wild seas. hmmm...

i have malfunctions enabled on SH3 but i never got any message saying the engines are in any way screwed up. that a normal thing to happen?

i do know that after the attack, speed is down to 1/3 of the usual on all the different speeds, and flank doesnt work at all.

possibly a malfunction which i am not told about but which means my engines are bad this entire patrol? possible some collateral damage from the attack? all compartments are fully functional but she drives like a rowing boat

Really cool that you made it out of that whole mess. Have had 1 similar situation with regards to the screwed up dive controls, though the screen was reporting accurate information - my aft bow planes were destroyed during the depth charging. When stuff gets destroyed though it should always show up in red both when you click on the compartment, and the compartment itself will be outlined in red. There was some kind of bad mojo going on there but good you could make it through, those are always the most memorable patrols.

Sometimes the lure of the big catch of running into a task force is best left to watch pass by. Was patrolling just NE of Alexandria from Salamis and ran into a huge taskforce, King George, 2 Nelsons, 2 Southhampton's ahead and behind the BB column; surrounded by a column of 6 DD on each side, with 2 Dido's in the aft flanks. Sinking any one of the BB's would've been a great catch, but wasn't worth the risk of potentially 12 DD's coming after me tell they start seeing body parts floating up

I found the whole situation hilarious to watch seeing 2 Nelson's, and knowing that on my last patrol I sunk the Nelson in port at Alexandria. Amazing how fast the Brits can raise and repair those capital ships

04-13-08, 08:41 PM	#1
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	the destroyers pissed off just now, they got bored after giving me some pretty screenshots I did it, blew all ballast and gradually increased speed while planes are on rise it worked, i just surfaced. here is the odd thing though: when i order flank ahead the engines stop. full speed is no problem but she wont do flank... thats probably why i dropped back down, failed to notice the engine not going to flank what with all the stuff going on around me. a nice (nasty) surprise from the damage model? engines so screwed up by damage they dont function properly anymore? edit: pheadrus, take on the taskforce, its fun i sank all 5 destroyers in the warburton group on the 9th/10th this screenshot is the escort of the battleship on the 13th, i'm going back in there __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen!

04-13-08, 08:46 PM	#2
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Has ahead flank worked before this attack? are you using SH3 commander? If i were you i would make the best possible speed for home waters __________________

04-13-08, 09:22 PM	#3
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	yeah the boat was fine before, except she had a tough time getting a good speed in the wild seas. hmmm... i have malfunctions enabled on SH3 but i never got any message saying the engines are in any way screwed up. that a normal thing to happen? i do know that after the attack, speed is down to 1/3 of the usual on all the different speeds, and flank doesnt work at all. possibly a malfunction which i am not told about but which means my engines are bad this entire patrol? possible some collateral damage from the attack? all compartments are fully functional but she drives like a rowing boat __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen!

04-13-08, 10:09 PM	#5
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	in my experience the crew WONT report malfunctions or sabotage... as this is not even modeled in the stock game thus the AI does not know it is a condition requiring a report. If you order ahead flank and nothing happens, thats your only way of knowing... if you didnt use ahead flank in the whole patrol until that point... well there you go. __________________

04-13-08, 10:18 PM	#6
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Well I did engage and destroy the warburton-lee group, I cant specifically remember but i really think i used flank speed at some point or other. anyway, its a challenging thing to be met by malfunctions like this. my boat seemed slow before the destroyer runs but afterwards she was even slower, if that makes sense oh and i just want to share this: the taskforce returned, i was trying to get into position but i was too far away. i watched all those destroyers sail by on the horizon but wait... where was the Nelson? turns out she must have engine trouble as well, perhaps from that 1 torpedo i got under her keel before all the trouble started sonar contact way behind the escorts, got in position in time to fire my last 2 torpedoes from 1500 meters boom, dead, done now limping back to base, gonna take a while but the navigator says we can make it, we still have half of our fuel left. thanks for all the help, glad to still be alive __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen!

04-13-08, 10:06 PM	#4
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Could very likely have been a malfunction. Crew might not have reported it due to inexperience. Anyway, glad you got back to the surface! I've had some close calls like that before. Had my VIIC sink to 230 meters, and I thought I was dead. Massive depth charging had destroyed my radio and blown a huge hole in the forward crew quarters area. Water was flooding into the torpedo room, forward crew quarters, and the radio room (along with a bit of flooding in the control room). We sank quite quickly, and when the depth meter went to an extreme, I was certain I was doomed. At the last minute, however, I heard a thud and we stopped falling, although we took a bit of damage upon hitting the sea floor around Tunisia.

04-14-08, 05:38 AM	#7
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,379 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Wow, these types of "adventures" really make the game exciting. Sitting on the bottom, just barely holding on, willing the destroyers to leave you alone just this once, fixing all the damage but realizing that you have one chance only to make it to the surface. Man I love this game! Glad you got out of it. We build them good in Germany eh Hienny __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

04-14-08, 06:41 AM	#8
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	amen to that! hats off to the GWX team btw i love that wolf in the zeppelin, lol (unless thats a historically accurate sniffer dog in there, lol) __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen!

04-14-08, 08:10 AM	#9
Umfuld Captain Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Posts: 503 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Coming to all stop when setting speed to Flank is a SH3 Malfunction I have had before. Sounds like it might be the case. It really is a sound move to run through everything when you leave port. Test all the speeds, diving and surfacing, the guns, etc. They aren't the sort of things you want to find out about in the heat of battle. I know you say you think you must have used Flank before then, but if you test everything you won't have to think, you'll know. Nice job getting out of that tight spot, by the way. __________________ Type VIIB = The Truth