One of the most severe depth charging experienced

tater · 04-07-08, 02:57 PM

Awesome story.

This subjects comes up on occasion, and this story is a useful example of the difference between a poor strategic vsision of ASW (that the IJN certainly had), and thier capabilty on the battlefield.

The IJN certainly had an abysmal overall stragetgy regarding ASW, but the individual units prosecuting subs could be quite effective.

This really shows the one glaring problem still with SH4. We cannot set a max depth for our DCs. The US boats could operate beneath DCs often times, but that is not at all the same as being invulnerable. The sub needs to come up at some point, and the escorts can stay up there til they decide not to.

Ducimus · 04-07-08, 08:49 PM

Since i spent an hour last night practicing my typing skills by copying this straight out of the book, im going to give this post a shameless bump!

By the way, check out the hyperlink on the book. More excerpts there.

gimpy117 · 04-07-08, 08:52 PM

My Balao got hit with a few good strings, the boat was roacking back and forth but only my decoy luancher was damaged. before i got to depth i fired off a cutie, she circled me a bit but was too shallow and after killing engines the Cutie went off on the hunt, connecting with a destroyer. after that i was able to get to 350 feet and the rattled destroyers went away.

Factor · 04-07-08, 09:34 PM

ive read this book several times. its like a book of short stories co existing with his story but not directly, and its an excellent read. excellent "visual writing" in this one. movies could be scripted to most if not all chapters. i may have to pull this one off the shelf for this weekend.

Fish40 · 04-08-08, 05:58 AM

Even after reading such a detailed account of such an attack, it's only a taste of what it was to experience it firsthand!

I found it interesting that the Japanese method of "ringing" the sub with escorts, is very similar to the methods employed by the famous U Boat killer, Cmdr. Walker. I just saw a documentary on the History International channel the other day on the Battle Of The Atlantic. It describes how Walkers own ship would be the one to maintain Sonar contact, and the rest would form a ring around the unlucky U Boat. It stated that once caught in the ring, a U Boat rarely survived. This statement was augmented by the interviewed former U Boat Cmdr. who's sub was caught in Walker's ring, and forced to surface after a lengthy battle.

Whisperer · 04-08-08, 09:43 AM

Nothing shameless about bumping this, Thanks Duci. Great reading. How's about you give us some more?

Hmmm, starting to sound like a child asking for candy,... But unfortunatly can't help it since sub's are my sweets.

Ducimus · 04-08-08, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

Nothing shameless about bumping this, Thanks Duci. Great reading. How's about you give us some more?

When i have some more time. sure.

04-07-08, 08:52 PM	#3
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	My Balao got hit with a few good strings, the boat was roacking back and forth but only my decoy luancher was damaged. before i got to depth i fired off a cutie, she circled me a bit but was too shallow and after killing engines the Cutie went off on the hunt, connecting with a destroyer. after that i was able to get to 350 feet and the rattled destroyers went away. __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

04-07-08, 02:57 PM	#1
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Awesome story. This subjects comes up on occasion, and this story is a useful example of the difference between a poor strategic vsision of ASW (that the IJN certainly had), and thier capabilty on the battlefield. The IJN certainly had an abysmal overall stragetgy regarding ASW, but the individual units prosecuting subs could be quite effective. This really shows the one glaring problem still with SH4. We cannot set a max depth for our DCs. The US boats could operate beneath DCs often times, but that is not at all the same as being invulnerable. The sub needs to come up at some point, and the escorts can stay up there til they decide not to.

04-07-08, 08:49 PM	#2
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Since i spent an hour last night practicing my typing skills by copying this straight out of the book, im going to give this post a shameless bump! By the way, check out the hyperlink on the book. More excerpts there.

04-07-08, 09:34 PM	#4
Factor Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 0	ive read this book several times. its like a book of short stories co existing with his story but not directly, and its an excellent read. excellent "visual writing" in this one. movies could be scripted to most if not all chapters. i may have to pull this one off the shelf for this weekend.

04-08-08, 05:58 AM	#5
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Even after reading such a detailed account of such an attack, it's only a taste of what it was to experience it firsthand! I found it interesting that the Japanese method of "ringing" the sub with escorts, is very similar to the methods employed by the famous U Boat killer, Cmdr. Walker. I just saw a documentary on the History International channel the other day on the Battle Of The Atlantic. It describes how Walkers own ship would be the one to maintain Sonar contact, and the rest would form a ring around the unlucky U Boat. It stated that once caught in the ring, a U Boat rarely survived. This statement was augmented by the interviewed former U Boat Cmdr. who's sub was caught in Walker's ring, and forced to surface after a lengthy battle.

04-08-08, 09:43 AM	#6
Whisperer Watch Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 20 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Nothing shameless about bumping this, Thanks Duci. Great reading. How's about you give us some more? Hmmm, starting to sound like a child asking for candy,... But unfortunatly can't help it since sub's are my sweets.