NATO summit "a fiasco"

[Trex]

Old Roman maxim - never throw away your shield. You never know when it might come in handy.

[Tchocky]

NATO's sole purpose of recent years seems to have been to piss off the Russians. then complain about said Russians.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

NATO's sole purpose of recent years seems to have been to piss off the Russians. then complain about said Russians.

Am I complaining about your remarks?


No, I have to agree.

NATO needs to get it's act together or we will have something new and nasty on our hands, question is when?

[MadMike]

When Russia finally becomes free of Putin's iron grip and his KGB/FSB assassins, then I guess the West and former Soviet bloc countries can breathe a sigh of relief.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...lled_in_Russia

Until then, forget about disbanding NATO.

Yours, Mike

Rheinland-Pfalz, '88-'92

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by MadMike

When Russia finally becomes free of Putin's iron grip and his KGB/FSB assassins,

If you mean by that it will become "democratic" in western and/or american understanding, you'll be set for a surprise, i think.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Trex

Old Roman maxim - never throw away your shield. You never know when it might come in handy.

And? Is it a shield these days? It reminds more of a pilum carelessly being thrown somewhere away - and being returned with a deformed spearhead.

[Steel_Tomb]

The NATO mision should change I'm in agreement with that, but think it would be a waste to just throw in the towel. NATO should focus its atention on international terrorism. With the cooperation of NATO, it would be easier to share information amongst the existing communications networks set up. Would also make it easier to share the burden of "rehabilitating" Afghanistan, but only if other nations actually get their act together and live up to their commitments as NATO members. I was pleased to see Sarkozy mobilize more men for the theatre, nice to see the Froggie's give us a hand for a change.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb

The NATO mision should change I'm in agreement with that,

Agreement with whom? It was not about how to run the a single mission, it was about the general orientation and self-definition (or lack of it) of the alliance. How single missions, or better: wars (in case of Afghanistan) get interpreted and handled by individual states, is not the origin but a consequence of this even more fundamental rift inside NATO.