I need help with ROW special effects

kriller2 · 03-31-08, 01:08 PM

Hi all,

I have found out a way to make the ROW special effects work with the new adoon, by using the old ROW particles and materials and making a new zone.cfg and cargo.def.

But there is a bug where you will see the oil-leak appear and disappear forever if you look at a burning oil-spot long enough

I have tried everything, reducing the lifetime of the effect in the zones.cfg, reducing the lifetime of the particles oilspot and can't make this work

with a oilleak just burning once..

We need to find out if it's doable by using my work and importing it into the new particles / materials.dat..

Here is my test file with the oil leak allmost working 100%
http://www.4shared.com/file/42577899..._Missions.html

Here is a picture of the working effect:

I hope someone can help me with this?

Factor · 03-31-08, 01:20 PM

hey kriller, thanx for all you do for us. can you tell us if the ship exhaust smoke being visable over the horizon has been addressed yet? again, thank you.

kriller2 · 03-31-08, 01:22 PM

Hi factor, yes we have it working, but I realy want to make the oil-leak effects work with the nice flames and smoke, before releasing it.

Meridian · 03-31-08, 01:45 PM

I wish I could help you K2 because that screenie looks great. I just wouldn't know where to start looking.

MONOLITH · 03-31-08, 03:31 PM

The burning oil was one of my favorite effects too. I still have the original ROW files Dave had sent me to test. Are they same? I could have a look at those. Otherwise send me your latest. At least it will be another brain looking at the problem.

Check your PMs too.

Factor · 03-31-08, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kriller2

Hi factor, yes we have it working, but I realy want to make the oil-leak effects work with the nice flames and smoke, before releasing it.

awesome. the colors in PE2 are stunning. loving every bit of it. thanx again for what you have done w/ this already amazing game.

just dont release it before my current patrol is over with, LOL.

Nisgeis · 04-01-08, 04:42 AM

I have stock 1.4 and the oil was re-appearing. I fixed it so the burning oil pool only appeared once, but left the none burning oil as it was re-appearing, but Kriller says that it doesn't work for him. Odd.

DrBeast · 04-01-08, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

I have stock 1.4 and the oil was re-appearing. I fixed it so the burning oil pool only appeared once, but left the none burning oil as it was re-appearing, but Kriller says that it doesn't work for him. Odd.

Must be a 1.5-related problem. I too run 1.4 and never noticed this behavior (though I stumbled upon other weird side-effects after I upgraded my rig...see the Pacific Environment thread for details).

Nisgeis · 04-01-08, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DrBeast

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

I have stock 1.4 and the oil was re-appearing. I fixed it so the burning oil pool only appeared once, but left the none burning oil as it was re-appearing, but Kriller says that it doesn't work for him. Odd.

Must be a 1.5-related problem. I too run 1.4 and never noticed this behavior (though I stumbled upon other weird side-effects after I upgraded my rig...see the Pacific Environment thread for details).

I have stock 1.4 and the oil was re-appearing.

DrBeast · 04-01-08, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

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Originally Posted by DrBeast

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

I have stock 1.4 and the oil was re-appearing. I fixed it so the burning oil pool only appeared once, but left the none burning oil as it was re-appearing, but Kriller says that it doesn't work for him. Odd.

Must be a 1.5-related problem. I too run 1.4 and never noticed this behavior (though I stumbled upon other weird side-effects after I upgraded my rig...see the Pacific Environment thread for details).

I have stock 1.4 and the oil was re-appearing.

Whoops...sorry, didn't notice that. That's what you get when you're speed-reading forums in the midst of an experiment! :p

kriller2 · 04-01-08, 05:41 AM

The special effects worked with the 1.4 patch, but the oil-leaks did appear and disappear, I think it was the solution Dave and Is4htl came to, because they couldn't solve the issue with the tool that existed at that time.

The appearing and disappearing happens now on my 1.5 installation, so if the file you send to me Nisgeis works with 1.4 (can you confirm that Dr. Beast?), then my guess would be it have something to do with the way the U-boat missions handles the particles / materials.dat?

It seems we are close to a solution,thanks for working on it!

EDIT...Or Maybe we need to make two versions, one for the 1.4 patch and one for the U-boat missions?

Nisgeis · 04-01-08, 06:17 AM

The version I sent you only has one of the oil patches fixed, as I wasn't sure exactly what you wanted it to do.

When a ship sinks, there are 4 or so oil patches, one of which is on fire. The fix I sent you had the normal oil patches re-appearing, but the one oil patch on fire (the one that I made float up a bit) now only appears once.

I might be going mad though.

DrBeast · 04-01-08, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kriller2

The appearing and disappearing happens now on my 1.5 installation, so if the file you send to me Nisgeis works with 1.4 (can you confirm that Dr. Beast?), then my guess would be it have something to do with the way the U-boat missions handles the particles / materials.dat?

See, that's why I never sign up as a tester: confirmation or not will have to wait until tomorrow, as I don't have internet at home

kriller2 · 04-01-08, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DrBeast

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Originally Posted by kriller2

The appearing and disappearing happens now on my 1.5 installation, so if the file you send to me Nisgeis works with 1.4 (can you confirm that Dr. Beast?), then my guess would be it have something to do with the way the U-boat missions handles the particles / materials.dat?

See, that's why I never sign up as a tester: confirmation or not will have to wait until tomorrow, as I don't have internet at home

Sorry dr. beast, but I don't have the game in a 1.4 state, so I thought it would be nice if we could confirm that Nisgeis is working in the right direction.

Will take a look at this again later when I get home

DrBeast · 04-01-08, 08:51 AM

kriller2, I'll test it nevertheless. Delayed feedback is better that no feedback, after all. Speaking of "home", I think it's time for a last smoke and then I'm homeward bound. So, catch you tomorrow!

03-31-08, 01:08 PM	#1
kriller2 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	(TEC) I need help with ROW special effects Hi all, I have found out a way to make the ROW special effects work with the new adoon, by using the old ROW particles and materials and making a new zone.cfg and cargo.def. But there is a bug where you will see the oil-leak appear and disappear forever if you look at a burning oil-spot long enough I have tried everything, reducing the lifetime of the effect in the zones.cfg, reducing the lifetime of the particles oilspot and can't make this work with a oilleak just burning once.. We need to find out if it's doable by using my work and importing it into the new particles / materials.dat.. Here is my test file with the oil leak allmost working 100% http://www.4shared.com/file/42577899..._Missions.html Here is a picture of the working effect: I hope someone can help me with this? __________________ *Kriller2.* [MODs] Real Environment mod and Pacific Enviroments 4 mod Last edited by kriller2; 03-31-08 at 01:19 PM.

03-31-08, 01:22 PM	#3
kriller2 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Hi factor, yes we have it working, but I realy want to make the oil-leak effects work with the nice flames and smoke, before releasing it. __________________ *Kriller2.* [MODs] Real Environment mod and Pacific Enviroments 4 mod

03-31-08, 01:45 PM	#4
Meridian Frogman Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 292 Downloads: 633 Uploads: 0	I wish I could help you K2 because that screenie looks great. I just wouldn't know where to start looking. __________________ SH3 Album SH4 Album AORUS Z390 Ultra, Intel Core i5 8600K, GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4096mb, 64.0GB Dual-Channel DDR4, Soundblaster Z.

03-31-08, 03:31 PM	#5
MONOLITH Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 997 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The burning oil was one of my favorite effects too. I still have the original ROW files Dave had sent me to test. Are they same? I could have a look at those. Otherwise send me your latest. At least it will be another brain looking at the problem. Check your PMs too. __________________

04-01-08, 05:41 AM	#11
kriller2 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	The special effects worked with the 1.4 patch, but the oil-leaks did appear and disappear, I think it was the solution Dave and Is4htl came to, because they couldn't solve the issue with the tool that existed at that time. The appearing and disappearing happens now on my 1.5 installation, so if the file you send to me Nisgeis works with 1.4 (can you confirm that Dr. Beast?), then my guess would be it have something to do with the way the U-boat missions handles the particles / materials.dat? It seems we are close to a solution,thanks for working on it! EDIT...Or Maybe we need to make two versions, one for the 1.4 patch and one for the U-boat missions? __________________ *Kriller2.* [MODs] Real Environment mod and Pacific Enviroments 4 mod Last edited by kriller2; 04-01-08 at 06:01 AM.

03-31-08, 01:20 PM	#2
Factor Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 0	hey kriller, thanx for all you do for us. can you tell us if the ship exhaust smoke being visable over the horizon has been addressed yet? again, thank you.

04-01-08, 04:42 AM	#7
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	I have stock 1.4 and the oil was re-appearing. I fixed it so the burning oil pool only appeared once, but left the none burning oil as it was re-appearing, but Kriller says that it doesn't work for him. Odd.

04-01-08, 06:17 AM	#12
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	The version I sent you only has one of the oil patches fixed, as I wasn't sure exactly what you wanted it to do. When a ship sinks, there are 4 or so oil patches, one of which is on fire. The fix I sent you had the normal oil patches re-appearing, but the one oil patch on fire (the one that I made float up a bit) now only appears once. I might be going mad though.

04-01-08, 08:51 AM	#15
DrBeast The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Somewhere Out In Space Posts: 1,408 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	kriller2, I'll test it nevertheless. Delayed feedback is better that no feedback, after all. Speaking of "home", I think it's time for a last smoke and then I'm homeward bound. So, catch you tomorrow! __________________ Let the Beast inside you free!