NVidia drivers responsible for 30% of Vista crashes

SUBMAN1 · 03-28-08, 10:56 AM

Wasn't I just complaining about NVidia drivers the other day? More fuel to the fire. Their drivers suck! No other way to say it.

Full article here:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...a-drivers.html

-S

Dowly · 03-28-08, 10:59 AM

All I need to do is sneeze towards Vista and it crashes and formats my HDD.

No need to blame others for Microsoft's crappy OS.

Tchocky · 03-28-08, 11:01 AM

Two stickers on my laptop, right beside each other.

One says "powered by nVidia", the other "Windows Vista capable".

Yeah, right :p

SUBMAN1 · 03-28-08, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

All I need to do is sneeze towards Vista and it crashes and formats my HDD.

No need to blame others for Microsoft's crappy OS.

I have ATI on Vista and it works fine. No crashes or hiccups - just slow. My NVidia machine however.....

Dowly · 03-28-08, 11:04 AM

Well that's funny, because when I had Vista, I had absolutely no problems with my Nvidia card. And that was ~6months ago. I doubt they downgrade their drivers.

Besides, I dont get what's the point with these threads. They are just begging to catch fire.

SUBMAN1 · 03-28-08, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Well that's funny, because when I had Vista, I had absolutely no problems with my Nvidia card. And that was ~6months ago. I doubt they downgrade their drivers.

Besides, I dont get what's the point with these threads. They are just begging to catch fire.

With real flames? ANyway, have a couple laptops that have Vista issues. I need new drivers for an 8800 GTS 512 MB. I want non beta/hacked drivers for my desktops Southbridge at home. Where are my monthly video card driver releases? What happened to NForce 4 and prior support?

Let the thread flame up. It needs to.

-S

Dowly · 03-28-08, 11:14 AM

Oh wait! Here's an article of the same thing!

First of all, it says EARLY VISTA.
And second of all, it says it has been solved; "...but as it stands now, both companies have very stable drivers under the OS..."

Oh and after that: "(even though ATI's takes three times as long to install)".

http://techgage.com/news/nvidia_most...vista_crashes/

And from the article you posted:

"If the number of failures were split by month and then graphed, we'd presumably see the number of NVIDIA driver failures per month decreasing as the company slowly brought its driver issues under control."

and

"The data clearly indicates that NVIDIA had a driver problem, but it's impossible to quantify the scope of that problem given the numbers above. NVIDIA holds a greater percentage of the market than ATI, which means that there will inevitably be a higher percentage of NVIDIA driver crashes than ATI driver crashes; however, the degree to which such market share considerations have affected the results above is hard to determine in the absence of more data. There's also the matter of data collection; Microsoft's charts do not clarify if multiple crashes from a single system each counted as separate events. In theory, NVIDIA's proportion of total driver crashes could be inflated by a relatively small handful of systems with severe driver issues."

SUBMAN1 · 03-28-08, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Oh wait! Here's an article of the same thing!

First of all, it says EARLY VISTA.
And second of all, it says it has been solved; "...but as it stands now, both companies have very stable drivers under the OS..."

Oh and after that: "(even though ATI's takes three times as long to install)".

http://techgage.com/news/nvidia_most...vista_crashes/

I'd have to say - Early Vista is not specified in the actual report, though it was part of it. It is all through 2007 for this pie chart.

This link you provided got it wrong.

ANd I still have drivers hacks on my machine after 1.5 friggen years!!!!!! And Nvidia was helping with the hack, but dropped it! What BS. Not to come down on you or anything, but as you can tell, I am completely frustrated with their lack of support. Or should I say - no support? I have incredibly buggy drivers for an 1575 chipset made by them, and only a hack has fixed my timing issue. This is even after they know about the problem - for 1.5 years!!!!
-S

Dowly · 03-28-08, 11:33 AM

I understand your frustration... heck, I'd be frustrated too in your situation.

I'll just end my part of this "duel of the GPUs" by saying that IN MY EXPERIENCE, I've had no problems with Nvidia and naturally, every PC is different. Some work just fine and some have problems. I'm actually amazed how I've kept all my PCs intact. First of all, it's on 24/7 and atm, I dont have anykind of anti-virus program installed. :p Let's hope they get all the bugs ironed out soon.

SUBMAN1 · 03-28-08, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

I understand your frustration... heck, I'd be frustrated too in your situation.

I'll just end my part of this "duel of the GPUs" by saying that IN MY EXPERIENCE, I've had no problems with Nvidia and naturally, every PC is different. Some work just fine and some have problems. I'm actually amazed how I've kept all my PCs intact. First of all, it's on 24/7 and atm, I dont have anykind of anti-virus program installed. :p Let's hope they get all the bugs ironed out soon.

DFI made the driver hack with NVidia's help, and ASUS just ignored it. Nice huh? The only downside is, even though I no longer get any SATA timing problems or the like, I traded that for the WIndows 'ding' minor error noise that comes on every 15 minutes or so, and comes on every 5 minutes when playing media. Nice trade huh?

-S

Dowly · 03-28-08, 11:48 AM

Ouch.

Jimbuna · 03-28-08, 12:22 PM

Didn't want to come in at the beginning and spoil the party.....besides I'd no popcorn in

One question if I may.....How come Nvidia are so popular and Vista has such a crap reputation then ?

I honestly thought (and I've purchased a laptop for my daughter recently with the Vista OS-mainly because there was no other real choice) that Vista was proving incompatable with more software than any other Windows systwm thus far developed

SUBMAN1 · 03-28-08, 12:27 PM

Originally Vista had some teething problems with drivers. Most are fixed now. SOme are not. Some are not even fixed on XP as in my case!

-S

Jimbuna · 03-28-08, 12:55 PM

Rgr that.

If I'm being totally honest I'd have to say that most of the software I've put on her system which initially proved incompatable was soon overcome by various means

Daemon Tools being the last instance.

SUBMAN1 · 03-28-08, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Rgr that.

If I'm being totally honest I'd have to say that most of the software I've put on her system which initially proved incompatable was soon overcome by various means

Daemon Tools being the last instance.

Don't think for a second that I like Vista best though! Its OK, but XP is an upgrade.

-S

03-28-08, 10:56 AM	#1
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	NVidia drivers responsible for 30% of Vista crashes Wasn't I just complaining about NVidia drivers the other day? More fuel to the fire. Their drivers suck! No other way to say it. Full article here: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...a-drivers.html -S __________________

03-28-08, 11:01 AM	#3
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Two stickers on my laptop, right beside each other. One says "powered by nVidia", the other "Windows Vista capable". Yeah, right :p __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

03-28-08, 11:14 AM	#7
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,056 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Oh wait! Here's an article of the same thing! First of all, it says EARLY VISTA. And second of all, it says it has been solved; "...but as it stands now, both companies have very stable drivers under the OS..." Oh and after that: "(even though ATI's takes three times as long to install)". http://techgage.com/news/nvidia_most...vista_crashes/ And from the article you posted: "If the number of failures were split by month and then graphed, we'd presumably see the number of NVIDIA driver failures per month decreasing as the company slowly brought its driver issues under control." and "The data clearly indicates that NVIDIA had a driver problem, but it's impossible to quantify the scope of that problem given the numbers above. NVIDIA holds a greater percentage of the market than ATI, which means that there will inevitably be a higher percentage of NVIDIA driver crashes than ATI driver crashes; however, the degree to which such market share considerations have affected the results above is hard to determine in the absence of more data. There's also the matter of data collection; Microsoft's charts do not clarify if multiple crashes from a single system each counted as separate events. In theory, NVIDIA's proportion of total driver crashes could be inflated by a relatively small handful of systems with severe driver issues." Last edited by Dowly; 03-28-08 at 11:25 AM.

03-28-08, 12:22 PM	#12
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,380 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Didn't want to come in at the beginning and spoil the party.....besides I'd no popcorn in One question if I may.....How come Nvidia are so popular and Vista has such a crap reputation then ? I honestly thought (and I've purchased a laptop for my daughter recently with the Vista OS-mainly because there was no other real choice) that Vista was proving incompatable with more software than any other Windows systwm thus far developed __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-28-08, 12:27 PM	#13
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Originally Vista had some teething problems with drivers. Most are fixed now. SOme are not. Some are not even fixed on XP as in my case! -S __________________

03-28-08, 10:59 AM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,056 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	All I need to do is sneeze towards Vista and it crashes and formats my HDD. No need to blame others for Microsoft's crappy OS.

03-28-08, 11:04 AM	#5
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,056 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Well that's funny, because when I had Vista, I had absolutely no problems with my Nvidia card. And that was ~6months ago. I doubt they downgrade their drivers. Besides, I dont get what's the point with these threads. They are just begging to catch fire.

03-28-08, 11:33 AM	#9
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,056 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I understand your frustration... heck, I'd be frustrated too in your situation. I'll just end my part of this "duel of the GPUs" by saying that IN MY EXPERIENCE, I've had no problems with Nvidia and naturally, every PC is different. Some work just fine and some have problems. I'm actually amazed how I've kept all my PCs intact. First of all, it's on 24/7 and atm, I dont have anykind of anti-virus program installed. :p Let's hope they get all the bugs ironed out soon.

03-28-08, 11:48 AM	#11
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,056 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Ouch.

03-28-08, 12:55 PM	#14
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,380 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Rgr that. If I'm being totally honest I'd have to say that most of the software I've put on her system which initially proved incompatable was soon overcome by various means Daemon Tools being the last instance. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!