Power Supply $$$ ??? - Page 2

antikristuseke · 03-12-08, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Have a decent 420w PSU for my box, more than ennough tbh. 500-650w with proper amperage on the 12v rail/rails is what id recomend for high end rigs with overclocking, anything more is simply not needed.

It doe's no good to have a carberator of a Corvette and a fuel pump of a Chevette to feed it.

Well, concidering that in this case the fuel pump is more than powerul ennough to quench the thirst of the engine having an even more powerful fuel pump is either for "bling bling, look at me big numbahs" or just simply unnessesary. That 750 psu you ahve for your rig could power another just like it without even breaking a sweat, actualy im fairly sure my rig is more power hungry than yours.

GlobalExplorer · 03-12-08, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

BTW ALL I just ordered that fridge. I just couldn't help myself.

Then I'll order two and link them onto a hub.

Thanks for the link. This think looks interesting but the rebate doesn't help me much. Becuase I am in Europe.

GlobalExplorer · 03-12-08, 07:52 PM

Having quality, modular cables is a must for a new PSU.

Cables is actually the achilles heel of my current PSU (LC Power 550W). It was really cheap and still has really stable amps and all but .. the cables! When I did not know about that they would sometimes crash the system.

I cannot explain such problems very well in english, but with the old cables the threads could get loose in the socket and the current would be interrupted.

FIREWALL · 03-12-08, 07:52 PM

My 750w will go into my next more with the times as some members have pointed out computer. pci-e 8800gtx X 2 duo core cpu and all the other bells and whistles that require POWER.

Anything less and your hanging on for dear life and doomed for a KABOOM

I agree whole heartedly it might be a little overkill and I say might NOW

But I'm also thinking about the future. And 400w ain't even going to turn it on.

antikristuseke · 03-12-08, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

My 750w will go into my next more with the times as some members have pointed out computer. pci-e 8800gtx X 2 duo core cpu and all the other bells and whistles that require POWER.

Anything less and your hanging on for dear life and doomed for a KABOOM

I agree whole heartedly it might be a little overkill and I say might NOW

But I'm also thinking about the future. And 400w ain't even going to turn it on.

I would very confidently stick a single 8800gtx into my current rig without reducing my overclock of my dual core cpu (its a 60% overclock and 0.1v overvolt), not in sli though becuse then my PSU would be near or slightly over its limits, id want to have at least a decent 550W for that, gives more than ennough of a safety margin.

FIREWALL · 03-12-08, 08:20 PM

Well Folks

We've rung 20 posts about the pro's and con's about Big and small power supplies and small usb refrigerators.

And still haven't come to any common agreement.

I think we should ALL be proud of ourselves.

Especially about the usb reefer.:rotfl:

Blacklight · 03-12-08, 09:40 PM

Ironically my 400 watt power supply burned out yesterday (literally... with smoke !

)

Luckily, I just happen to have a PC junkyard in my basement and I found another identical 400 watter ! All I had to do was pop the power supply open and vaccume out all the spiders, webs and dust that it had gotten from being in the basement.

Those are some MEAN, SCARRY looking capacitors on those power supply circut boards ! I bet they could give you a good jolt even with the power off.

GlobalExplorer · 03-13-08, 12:35 PM

I am actually considering one of the the new NVIDIA 9600's, not a 8800. According to the first reviews, the 9600 performance is ~80% of the 8800, but the price is about 100€/150USD less.

Add to this the fact that I am playing mostly simulations, which are mostly CPU bound, and that I usually upgrade my video adapter after 2-3 years.

But the most important thing about the 9600 is efficience. Some numbers:

Temperatures idle / full load
9600: 40C / 64C
8800: 58C / 90C

Power draw idle / full load
9600: 178W / 236W
8800: 191W / 270W

Source : http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...ZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

antikristuseke · 03-13-08, 04:48 PM

Looking at that even a decent 350W psu would do the job, but id still stick to my original recomendation of arround 550W with decent aperage on 12v rail/rails

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Originally Posted by Blacklight

Ironically my 400 watt power supply burned out yesterday (literally... with smoke !

)

Have had two 400W psus die on myself, but thats because they were ****tyly build overrated crap from Codegen. Codegen and ColorsIT are the worst PSU's i have ever come across and a total of 7 have died on me and 2 close friends. Avoid those like the plague.

FIREWALL · 04-30-09, 12:45 PM

A year has went by since I started this thread.

I've upgraded my psu to an Ultra 1600 and I'm glad I did.

I just bought two (2) of these bad boys and will not worry about POWER.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...=WARRANTY#tabs

And won't do any Vid Card upgrade for a long,long time.

Konovalov · 04-30-09, 12:48 PM

Yikes.

What resolution do you game at? And also I'm curious as to if you know roughly how much power your system draws during intensive graphical apps such as gaming?

mr chris · 04-30-09, 01:02 PM

I just graded mine to this one from a 750 watt Corsair.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-172-CM

Only problem was that i was not looking properly when i ordered it as it is not modular

was a pain in the ass hiding all the unused cables. Though i do have some uses in mind of them in the future.

Seems to doing well even if she is powering 2 4870x2 2gb cards in crossfire. In my antec 1200 case, i run all the fans on medium and run the graphics card fans and random intervals to keep them cool. though when gaming i turn the case fans up to high and the card fans to 60%.
Though i cant wait for this baby to be released will be getting two of these as soon as i can.

http://www.arctic-cooling.com/catalo...th=2_0&mID=244

Arclight · 04-30-09, 04:19 PM

750Watt is plenty, in fact I would dare venture the Corsair 620 or 650Watt would have been a better choise (better components).

I'm kinda late to the party, but Amperage and brand (more precisely parts manufacturer) are just as important as Wattage.

FIREWALL · 04-30-09, 05:53 PM

@ arclight You haven't heard of Ultra ?

Peto · 04-30-09, 07:44 PM

I might as well chime in

!

Another Very Important factor is how efficient the PWS is. I'm a big fan of bigger is better (if you can afford it). For most single video card rigs a good 650W is fine unless you're running multiple HDDs in a RAID or some-such. I'm a fan of 2 HDDs--one for running OS and programs and one for backup. Currently, I like Antec and Corsair PWS's the most--best bang for the buck IMO.

@ mr chris: That Antec 1200 is a Great Case! I'm looking at getting the 900 version in the near future (big enough for what I build).

03-12-08, 07:52 PM	#18
GlobalExplorer Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,015 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Having quality, modular cables is a must for a new PSU. Cables is actually the achilles heel of my current PSU (LC Power 550W). It was really cheap and still has really stable amps and all but .. the cables! When I did not know about that they would sometimes crash the system. I cannot explain such problems very well in english, but with the old cables the threads could get loose in the socket and the current would be interrupted. __________________

03-12-08, 07:52 PM	#19
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	My 750w will go into my next more with the times as some members have pointed out computer. pci-e 8800gtx X 2 duo core cpu and all the other bells and whistles that require POWER. Anything less and your hanging on for dear life and doomed for a KABOOM I agree whole heartedly it might be a little overkill and I say might NOW But I'm also thinking about the future. And 400w ain't even going to turn it on. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

03-12-08, 08:20 PM	#21
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Well Folks We've rung 20 posts about the pro's and con's about Big and small power supplies and small usb refrigerators. And still haven't come to any common agreement. I think we should ALL be proud of ourselves. Especially about the usb reefer.:rotfl: __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

03-12-08, 09:40 PM	#22
Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	Ironically my 400 watt power supply burned out yesterday (literally... with smoke ! ) Luckily, I just happen to have a PC junkyard in my basement and I found another identical 400 watter ! All I had to do was pop the power supply open and vaccume out all the spiders, webs and dust that it had gotten from being in the basement. Those are some MEAN, SCARRY looking capacitors on those power supply circut boards ! I bet they could give you a good jolt even with the power off. __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"

03-13-08, 12:35 PM	#23
GlobalExplorer Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,015 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	I am actually considering one of the the new NVIDIA 9600's, not a 8800. According to the first reviews, the 9600 performance is ~80% of the 8800, but the price is about 100€/150USD less. Add to this the fact that I am playing mostly simulations, which are mostly CPU bound, and that I usually upgrade my video adapter after 2-3 years. But the most important thing about the 9600 is efficience. Some numbers: Temperatures idle / full load 9600: 40C / 64C 8800: 58C / 90C Power draw idle / full load 9600: 178W / 236W 8800: 191W / 270W Source : http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...ZW50aHVzaWFzdA== __________________

04-30-09, 12:45 PM	#25
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	A year has went by since I started this thread. I've upgraded my psu to an Ultra 1600 and I'm glad I did. I just bought two (2) of these bad boys and will not worry about POWER. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...=WARRANTY#tabs And won't do any Vid Card upgrade for a long,long time. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

04-30-09, 12:48 PM	#26
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Yikes. What resolution do you game at? And also I'm curious as to if you know roughly how much power your system draws during intensive graphical apps such as gaming? __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

04-30-09, 01:02 PM	#27
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	I just graded mine to this one from a 750 watt Corsair. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-172-CM Only problem was that i was not looking properly when i ordered it as it is not modular was a pain in the ass hiding all the unused cables. Though i do have some uses in mind of them in the future. Seems to doing well even if she is powering 2 4870x2 2gb cards in crossfire. In my antec 1200 case, i run all the fans on medium and run the graphics card fans and random intervals to keep them cool. though when gaming i turn the case fans up to high and the card fans to 60%. Though i cant wait for this baby to be released will be getting two of these as soon as i can. http://www.arctic-cooling.com/catalo...th=2_0&mID=244 __________________

04-30-09, 04:19 PM	#28
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	750Watt is plenty, in fact I would dare venture the Corsair 620 or 650Watt would have been a better choise (better components). I'm kinda late to the party, but Amperage and brand (more precisely parts manufacturer) are just as important as Wattage. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

04-30-09, 05:53 PM	#29
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	@ arclight You haven't heard of Ultra ? __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

04-30-09, 07:44 PM	#30
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I might as well chime in ! Another Very Important factor is how efficient the PWS is. I'm a big fan of bigger is better (if you can afford it). For most single video card rigs a good 650W is fine unless you're running multiple HDDs in a RAID or some-such. I'm a fan of 2 HDDs--one for running OS and programs and one for backup. Currently, I like Antec and Corsair PWS's the most--best bang for the buck IMO. @ mr chris: That Antec 1200 is a Great Case! I'm looking at getting the 900 version in the near future (big enough for what I build). __________________ If your target has a 30 degree AOB, the range from his base course line equals the current range divided by 2.