Active/Passive Sonar and torpedo issue

Midnight Hunter · 03-12-08, 05:45 PM

Guess I should expand on my story a little. I was sitting 2000 yards of the port side of the sweeper, the weather was clear and it was dusk. I had been sitting at periscope depth, not moving at all for atleast 10 minutes lying in wait ( I had end-arounded them and set up my trap) There was no periscope up since my last peek when they were over 6000 yards away from me (bearing 55°) and then, like I said as soon as the sweeper hit the 0° bearing it was like he was shot out of a cannon right at me. I was honestly at a loss as to why he came and what to do, my shot was less than 15 seconds away but I couldn't very well stay at periscope depth and be DC'd.. grrr sometimes the AI in this game is annoying

Scarto · 03-13-08, 08:28 AM

Didn't minesweepers have special ways to detect things underwater in the war?
(like mines and logically u boats too...)

Anyway, Avoid the minesweepers

Sometimes its just the game, I had merchants spot me at 90 feet deep running silent and no scope out. No way he could have seen me but when I got to close he did anyway. Sometimes its hard to play games :P

M. Sarsfield · 03-13-08, 08:45 AM

I think that minesweepers use MAD (Magnetic Anomoly Detection), since that is the primary source for detecting mines and it was further developed for destroyers. I think I remember reading that the Japanese were the first to really refine and effectively implement MAD gear.

I've had single merchants spot my scope at over 3,000 yards at night with the boat stopped. They start to zig-zag, but I usually get at least one fish into them as they pass by. So, super-human abilities aren't only a minesweeper trait.

Midnight Hunter · 03-13-08, 09:38 AM

Thanks M. Sarsfield, I had never even though of other sensors or capabilities of specific units... I haven't had any merchant units do anything like you talked about yet, thank goodness. Well, guess I'll just try to back up a thousand yards or so from my last save and see if he can still pick me up or not.

Platapus · 03-13-08, 09:46 AM

did you serve navy bean soup for lunch?

Might want to check the men in the after torp room (vent the room before undogging the door)

Bean soup and silent running don't mix

On the bridge of the Japanese minesweeper...

"Captain, sound reports whales blowing off our port side!"

Helm! Hard aport! Son, whales don't blow unless they are on the surface and besides it is just after lunch. Ready depth charges submarine detected!

Betcha thats what happened.

Midnight Hunter · 03-13-08, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

did you serve navy bean soup for lunch?

Might want to check the men in the after torp room (vent the room before undogging the door)

Bean soup and silent running don't mix

On the bridge of the Japanese minesweeper...

"Captain, sound reports whales blowing off our port side!"

Helm! Hard aport! Son, whales don't blow unless they are on the surface and besides it is just after lunch. Ready depth charges submarine detected!

Betcha thats what happened.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: You sir.. owe me a keyboard!!!

Scarto · 03-13-08, 10:20 AM

Hehe :P nice one platapus

03-13-08, 08:45 AM	#3
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think that minesweepers use MAD (Magnetic Anomoly Detection), since that is the primary source for detecting mines and it was further developed for destroyers. I think I remember reading that the Japanese were the first to really refine and effectively implement MAD gear. I've had single merchants spot my scope at over 3,000 yards at night with the boat stopped. They start to zig-zag, but I usually get at least one fish into them as they pass by. So, super-human abilities aren't only a minesweeper trait. __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

03-13-08, 09:46 AM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,379 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	did you serve navy bean soup for lunch? Might want to check the men in the after torp room (vent the room before undogging the door) Bean soup and silent running don't mix On the bridge of the Japanese minesweeper... "Captain, sound reports whales blowing off our port side!" Helm! Hard aport! Son, whales don't blow unless they are on the surface and besides it is just after lunch. Ready depth charges submarine detected! Betcha thats what happened. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-12-08, 05:45 PM	#1
Midnight Hunter Mate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 56 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Guess I should expand on my story a little. I was sitting 2000 yards of the port side of the sweeper, the weather was clear and it was dusk. I had been sitting at periscope depth, not moving at all for atleast 10 minutes lying in wait ( I had end-arounded them and set up my trap) There was no periscope up since my last peek when they were over 6000 yards away from me (bearing 55°) and then, like I said as soon as the sweeper hit the 0° bearing it was like he was shot out of a cannon right at me. I was honestly at a loss as to why he came and what to do, my shot was less than 15 seconds away but I couldn't very well stay at periscope depth and be DC'd.. grrr sometimes the AI in this game is annoying

03-13-08, 08:28 AM	#2
Scarto Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Didn't minesweepers have special ways to detect things underwater in the war? (like mines and logically u boats too...) Anyway, Avoid the minesweepers Sometimes its just the game, I had merchants spot me at 90 feet deep running silent and no scope out. No way he could have seen me but when I got to close he did anyway. Sometimes its hard to play games :P

03-13-08, 09:38 AM	#4
Midnight Hunter Mate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 56 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks M. Sarsfield, I had never even though of other sensors or capabilities of specific units... I haven't had any merchant units do anything like you talked about yet, thank goodness. Well, guess I'll just try to back up a thousand yards or so from my last save and see if he can still pick me up or not.

03-13-08, 10:20 AM	#7
Scarto Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Hehe :P nice one platapus