Clayp, I feel your pain

ReallyDedPoet · 03-11-08, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by clayp

I think I'm going to step away from the game for awhile..

Listen to some of the suggestions here clay, folks are willing to help.

RDP

1480 · 03-11-08, 08:20 PM

It was my fault and I do apologize whole heartedly to ClayP. I sent him a pm about it but I figured I should make it public to the rest of the community. I sometimes forget that the medium we use never lets us truely convey the sincerity or conversely the lack there of, to others, as say face to face or via telephone. I truly hope ClayP reads this and the pm and considers this to be water under the bridge.

Slick Wilhelm · 03-11-08, 09:36 PM

Good on ya, 1480. It's so easy to mis-perceive someone else's post. I whole-heartedly salute you for apologizing. Hopefully clayp will accept it and we can all gather around for a big...

GROUP HUG!

1480 · 03-11-08, 10:19 PM

I got the 1st round of Rhinelanders and Makers Mark shorties instead

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Rockin Robbins · 03-12-08, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick Wilhelm

Good on ya, 1480. It's so easy to mis-perceive someone else's post. I whole-heartedly salute you for apologizing. Hopefully clayp will accept it and we can all gather around for a big...

GROUP HUG!

I just had that happen in a PM! Update to number of clayp supporters: 7 and growing! And I count 1480 as supporter #1. Good deal, 1480. You figured out what was going on and didn't hesitate to make things right.

DavyJonesFootlocker · 03-12-08, 07:51 AM

Big of ya 1480, but does this mean I don't get any money?

swdw · 03-12-08, 01:43 PM

Clayp, if you counted the number of ships and convoy contacts lost by real skippers before radar trying to outguess where the enemy was going, you'd find you're in very good company.

If you totaled the number of aborted attacks by real skippers because of bad weather, loss of visual and sonar contact at the last moment, or bad guessing as to the convoys base course, you'd again be in some really good company.

What made the sub aces wasn't infallibility, it was persistance in being willing to shake off a bad situation and go into the next one with a positive outlook about their chances in the new engagement.

So keep your chin up, there's always a new chance to do well looming over the horizon.

And we're rootin for ya all the way!

As for us SH4 players. here's an example that shows a bad day can happen to anyone.

I picked up a task force and was in a great position. THe task force was only doing 14 knots, so I took my boat in an end run at flank as I was drooling at the chance at a battleship or a couple of cruisers.

Stoopid me, I forgot to check the local sunrise time. I wsa just about in position where I could dive and make a submerged approach when I was silhouetted by the sunrise only 5000 yds from the convoy. Even with a crash dive I was holed by a couple of destroyer rounds and had some critical damage to deal with. Thankfully the TF escort only dropped a few DC's and left as the hull was damaged and she probably couldn't have taken much more.

So for an all night run, I got zip, didn't even get a torpedo off, and now had a damaged boat that could only make 14 knots top speed instead of 20.

This is the same boat that later jumped a convoy of 6 freighters and 2 escorts and made 2 seperate attack runs. Of course because I use the RFB mod I had 3 hits for damage to the freighters, 4 duds, 4 under runners/ gyro failures and 3 prematures. No sinkings

Not exactly what I would call a stellar performance. At the end of the patrol I'd exhausted all my fish and scored one sampan and one small composite freighter that I had to finish off with the deck gun because only one torpedo hit and exploded and I was out of fish.

Yet, this is the same person on another patrol that snuck into the middle of a TF and sank one BB, one CA and damaged another CA.

So having a bad experience doesn't mean you're a bad player, it means you had a bad day. Keep playing, and on the bad days, go have a beer and a pizza.

Midnight Hunter · 03-12-08, 02:49 PM

SWDW.. that is a great post, it is truely hard for new players or people having trouble to feel good about the game when they come here and hear stories of guys busting 50000 tonnes on thier first patrol with a "sugar" boat and never missing a shot and so on... I know for myself (and clayp you should do this too) as soon as I get a "ship spotted" message I save the game and pause, evaluate what I need to do, plan out my method of attack and then unpause and do it. I figure until I can get better and actually hit what I shoot at more than 1/3 of the time I need every advantage I can get

Now I am to the point where I plan on the fly and can get into good position and play like a hole in the water, now if I could only aim

03-11-08, 08:20 PM	#2
1480 Lead Slinger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chitcago, Illinoise Posts: 1,442 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	It was my fault and I do apologize whole heartedly to ClayP. I sent him a pm about it but I figured I should make it public to the rest of the community. I sometimes forget that the medium we use never lets us truely convey the sincerity or conversely the lack there of, to others, as say face to face or via telephone. I truly hope ClayP reads this and the pm and considers this to be water under the bridge. __________________

03-11-08, 09:36 PM	#3
Slick Wilhelm Mate Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 60 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Good on ya, 1480. It's so easy to mis-perceive someone else's post. I whole-heartedly salute you for apologizing. Hopefully clayp will accept it and we can all gather around for a big... GROUP HUG! __________________ "Nein! I did not have sex with that fraulein"

03-11-08, 10:19 PM	#4
1480 Lead Slinger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chitcago, Illinoise Posts: 1,442 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	I got the 1st round of Rhinelanders and Makers Mark shorties instead . __________________

03-12-08, 07:51 AM	#6
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	Big of ya 1480, but does this mean I don't get any money? __________________ "Silence means death. Stand on your feet. Inner fear your worst enemy."- Sepultura. My Silent Hunter 5 mantra is this......"Torpedo missed, sir!" A P-400 is a P-40 with a Zero after it. A proud member of the Wikipedia Haters Club

03-12-08, 01:43 PM	#7
swdw Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 921 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Clayp, if you counted the number of ships and convoy contacts lost by real skippers before radar trying to outguess where the enemy was going, you'd find you're in very good company. If you totaled the number of aborted attacks by real skippers because of bad weather, loss of visual and sonar contact at the last moment, or bad guessing as to the convoys base course, you'd again be in some really good company. What made the sub aces wasn't infallibility, it was persistance in being willing to shake off a bad situation and go into the next one with a positive outlook about their chances in the new engagement. So keep your chin up, there's always a new chance to do well looming over the horizon. And we're rootin for ya all the way! As for us SH4 players. here's an example that shows a bad day can happen to anyone. I picked up a task force and was in a great position. THe task force was only doing 14 knots, so I took my boat in an end run at flank as I was drooling at the chance at a battleship or a couple of cruisers. Stoopid me, I forgot to check the local sunrise time. I wsa just about in position where I could dive and make a submerged approach when I was silhouetted by the sunrise only 5000 yds from the convoy. Even with a crash dive I was holed by a couple of destroyer rounds and had some critical damage to deal with. Thankfully the TF escort only dropped a few DC's and left as the hull was damaged and she probably couldn't have taken much more. So for an all night run, I got zip, didn't even get a torpedo off, and now had a damaged boat that could only make 14 knots top speed instead of 20. This is the same boat that later jumped a convoy of 6 freighters and 2 escorts and made 2 seperate attack runs. Of course because I use the RFB mod I had 3 hits for damage to the freighters, 4 duds, 4 under runners/ gyro failures and 3 prematures. No sinkings Not exactly what I would call a stellar performance. At the end of the patrol I'd exhausted all my fish and scored one sampan and one small composite freighter that I had to finish off with the deck gun because only one torpedo hit and exploded and I was out of fish. Yet, this is the same person on another patrol that snuck into the middle of a TF and sank one BB, one CA and damaged another CA. So having a bad experience doesn't mean you're a bad player, it means you had a bad day. Keep playing, and on the bad days, go have a beer and a pizza. __________________ "There are only two types of ships- submarines...... and targets" Unknown "you wouldn't catch me on a ship that deliberately sinks itself"- comment to me from a surface sailor. System: AMD 6300 3.5 GHz \| 32GB DDR3 \| SATA 300 320GB HD, SATA III 1TB HD, SATA III 1.TB HD \| ASUS Sonar DS sound card NVIDIA 1660 Super OC \| Windows 10 Last edited by swdw; 03-12-08 at 06:23 PM.

03-12-08, 02:49 PM	#8
Midnight Hunter Mate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 56 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SWDW.. that is a great post, it is truely hard for new players or people having trouble to feel good about the game when they come here and hear stories of guys busting 50000 tonnes on thier first patrol with a "sugar" boat and never missing a shot and so on... I know for myself (and clayp you should do this too) as soon as I get a "ship spotted" message I save the game and pause, evaluate what I need to do, plan out my method of attack and then unpause and do it. I figure until I can get better and actually hit what I shoot at more than 1/3 of the time I need every advantage I can get Now I am to the point where I plan on the fly and can get into good position and play like a hole in the water, now if I could only aim