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CaptainNemo · 03-10-08, 06:39 PM

Hi folks,

first of all I would like to explain the disaccord. Our community was thinking about a modpack which includes the best mods which are available for Silent Hunter 4. (Every mod like Trigger Maru, ROW etc.. is listed in the modpack. Furtheremore it is called a modpack and not a mod for itsself.)

We never mentioned to adopt the work others. You can see a note at the end of the trailer, where we list every single mod like trigger maru.

And no, we are not going to sell this "modpack" for money. This is really ridiculous..

The person in charge of this "pack", AOTD_Mad Max tried to contact Ducimus for legitimation and permission. Furthermore he sent Ducimus a Bug fix for tm and asked for cooperation.

I repeat it was never in our mind to adopt the work of others. In fact we tried to make an own interpretation of Trigger Maru. ( Modifying the ai, bigger instruments, includes more ships etc..)

It is really sad that the most of you think we were going to harvest the fame of others..This was never our intention...

We want to work with and for the community, not against it.

Ducimus · 03-10-08, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Furthermore he send Ducimus a Bug fix for tm and asked for cooperation.

I do remember seeing that PM. I just didn't have time to look at the file and forgot to respond to it. I do in fact, get alot of PMs, and i dont respond to them all. I have entirely too much on my mind, Not in a community/mod sense, but in real world sense, so i don't take the time to read and respond to every PM i get. I have all i can handle already.

Permission to use the mod as a base was given publicly ages go in the original TM post. I guess up until this point, nobody ever thought i was serious. All i want, is to finish what im doing with it, so i can get out of the "modding scene" and move on. But i know i wont, until i finish what i started. I need that sense of closure. Id be done if it wasnt for patch 1.5. That opened alot of doors, now here i'm stuck again, again trying to finish what i started.

You guys do with it what you want, i've said that to everyone time and time again. I never wanted to be "famous", nor do i consider myself "famous". Im just a guy with an idea, and alot on his mind. I really don't need any drama.

AOTD_MadMax · 03-10-08, 07:06 PM

Hello mates,

I tried to contact Duci at 03.03.2008 06:34 with an PM. But he allready mentioned that.
I asked for permission and i send him small bugfixes for TM.

http://85.25.133.181/FOTRS/HelpforDuci.rar

This small bugfixes reworkes his AI subs and reworks his Narwhal-class.
If you use this small files your Narwhal is shown as Narwhal and not as Salmon at your Sub/Crewmanagement.

So first of all i wanne say that TM is a big mod wich includes so many small mods, made from the community for SH4.
Are these small mods like nomograph, ROW, 4blade-Propellors and any others only made for TM ?
No, they was made for for the community, for all SH4-user to make their game better and more realistic.

So we only make an modpack and modpack means that this is a pack of mods.
And the last thing I want to mention is that most of you didn´t read the Readme-files where all mods and modders are listed.

I hope that we all can work together to make SH4 better and more realistic and i hope that we didnt make war here like the dumb asses in real life.

Sorry for my bad english.......

Greets

MadMax

CaptainNemo · 03-10-08, 07:11 PM

Hi Ducimus! It is great to hear from you! I hope I could clear up the disaccord. And by the way your work is awesome!

Whe assumed that you get a lof of pms and so it is okay that you have not answered. As I mentioned we still hope that there is a chance for cooperation or at least for an exchange.

You can reach me in ICQ or MSN Messenger if you like.

Best regards, your Nemo!

Btw we also try to create a silent hunter 4 atlantic mod in cooperation with the atlantic sharks community.

Here are some Screens:

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/Bilder/...ikCampaign.JPG

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/wbb2/at...achmentid=3976

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/wbb2/at...achmentid=3991

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/wbb2/at...achmentid=3975

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/wbb2/at...achmentid=3978

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/wbb2/at...achmentid=3979

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/wbb2/at...achmentid=3977

gimpy117 · 03-10-08, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Well, i said anyone could use TM as a base for their own mod if they wanted to. (infact i've said it for months, my only cavet is to cite your source)

My official response...

Sweet! I can retire soon!

(edit: Seriously, you have no idea how much TM is taking now. Its grown entirely too big, i am only one person, and patch.s.. omg patchs.. PATCHS KILL ME. Supermods in the past grew on a stable, unchanging platform with a team of people actively owrking on it. TM grew on an unstable platfrom, with primarly just ME working on it. How many patchs have we had now? 5? Color me jaded, cause i am.

)

well, I guess if the licence allowed it for your own use, ok. besides maybe they'll make somthing really good, that the SUBSIM COMMIUNITY can ENJOY in return.

but, it would have been nice for them to ask.

there happy now.....

kapitan_zur_see · 03-10-08, 08:10 PM

oh my god...! The SH3 models just don't live up to the level of quality of those from SH4. Gonna have to rework the VII model into 3dsmax... :hmm:

AOTD_MadMax · 03-10-08, 08:13 PM

@ Gimpy

Who is we ?
Did you ever worked out some mod ?

Greets

Maddy

Ducimus · 03-10-08, 08:13 PM

>>I hope I could clear up the disaccord.

No harsh feeling or complaints from me.

>>.As I mentioned we still hope that there is a chance for cooperation or at least for an exchange

What is it that you want from me?

>>it would have been nice for them to ask.

They did PM me. But, they didnt really need to.

As an aside, when i returned to subsim, i cleaned out my inbox. Anything in there was a month or two old. It's now back to 60. And in case anyones wondered, yes there are times when i intentionally do NOT clean it out.

Kinda interesting when you get 6 emails from subsim notifying you that someone tried to send a PM but your box was full. :rotfl:

gimpy117 · 03-10-08, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOTD_MadMax

@ Gimpy

Who is we ?
Did you ever worked out some mod ?

Greets

Maddy

nope and im not trying to take cred... but I guess your making me feel good by picking apart my grammar...
THANKS!!!

ps. i was kinnda coming to bat for you guys...

CaptainNemo · 03-10-08, 08:19 PM

@ Ducimus

We would like to exchange some experiences regarding modding, to help and learn from each other. But only if you are interested and have got the time for it.

AkbarGulag · 03-10-08, 08:44 PM

Is there a readme available for this? I can't read German.

CaptainNemo · 03-10-08, 09:10 PM

Yes there will be an readme in english where we will exactly list all the mods which will be in "our" modpack.

tater · 03-10-08, 10:19 PM

We're all trying to make things better. <S> on your effort!

tater

AkbarGulag · 03-10-08, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

Yes there will be an readme in english where we will exactly list all the mods which will be in "our" modpack.

I think you mis-construed my motive.

The answer may be a "no, not at this point, we will have one once it is released". But that is merely an assumption as I clearly need to re-state my question.

Probably best if I wait until you release. The only German I deal with in RL is more interested in drinking beer and having a feed than translating game sites. Nice vid BTW.

Captain von Keldunk · 03-11-08, 01:14 AM

HELLO
I see nothing wrong there.

As it is germans making this mod i hope they get uboat crew lanquage problem
fixed at least, also as many bugs as possible. Maybe tm, pe/row can use some
of they work also. Modders standing on shoulders of other modders, this is
how it should be. "use as you like" this is what i say of my mods.
If someone can use what you have made to make game better ,it is BETTER.

03-10-08, 06:39 PM	#31
CaptainNemo Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany/Essen Posts: 132 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Hi folks, first of all I would like to explain the disaccord. Our community was thinking about a modpack which includes the best mods which are available for Silent Hunter 4. (Every mod like Trigger Maru, ROW etc.. is listed in the modpack. Furtheremore it is called a modpack and not a mod for itsself.) We never mentioned to adopt the work others. You can see a note at the end of the trailer, where we list every single mod like trigger maru. And no, we are not going to sell this "modpack" for money. This is really ridiculous.. The person in charge of this "pack", AOTD_Mad Max tried to contact Ducimus for legitimation and permission. Furthermore he sent Ducimus a Bug fix for tm and asked for cooperation. I repeat it was never in our mind to adopt the work of others. In fact we tried to make an own interpretation of Trigger Maru. ( Modifying the ai, bigger instruments, includes more ships etc..) It is really sad that the most of you think we were going to harvest the fame of others..This was never our intention... We want to work with and for the community, not against it. __________________ www.acesofthedeep.com Last edited by CaptainNemo; 03-10-08 at 06:57 PM.

03-10-08, 07:06 PM	#33
AOTD_MadMax Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bremen/Germany Posts: 749 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 1	Hello mates, I tried to contact Duci at 03.03.2008 06:34 with an PM. But he allready mentioned that. I asked for permission and i send him small bugfixes for TM. http://85.25.133.181/FOTRS/HelpforDuci.rar This small bugfixes reworkes his AI subs and reworks his Narwhal-class. If you use this small files your Narwhal is shown as Narwhal and not as Salmon at your Sub/Crewmanagement. So first of all i wanne say that TM is a big mod wich includes so many small mods, made from the community for SH4. Are these small mods like nomograph, ROW, 4blade-Propellors and any others only made for TM ? No, they was made for for the community, for all SH4-user to make their game better and more realistic. So we only make an modpack and modpack means that this is a pack of mods. And the last thing I want to mention is that most of you didn´t read the Readme-files where all mods and modders are listed. I hope that we all can work together to make SH4 better and more realistic and i hope that we didnt make war here like the dumb asses in real life. Sorry for my bad english....... Greets MadMax __________________ AOTD is gone, iam the last survivor ........

03-10-08, 07:11 PM	#34
CaptainNemo Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany/Essen Posts: 132 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Hi Ducimus! It is great to hear from you! I hope I could clear up the disaccord. And by the way your work is awesome! Whe assumed that you get a lof of pms and so it is okay that you have not answered. As I mentioned we still hope that there is a chance for cooperation or at least for an exchange. You can reach me in ICQ or MSN Messenger if you like. Best regards, your Nemo! Btw we also try to create a silent hunter 4 atlantic mod in cooperation with the atlantic sharks community. Here are some Screens: http://www.aotd-flottille.de/Bilder/...ikCampaign.JPG http://www.aotd-flottille.de/wbb2/at...achmentid=3976 http://www.aotd-flottille.de/wbb2/at...achmentid=3991 http://www.aotd-flottille.de/wbb2/at...achmentid=3975 http://www.aotd-flottille.de/wbb2/at...achmentid=3978 http://www.aotd-flottille.de/wbb2/at...achmentid=3979 http://www.aotd-flottille.de/wbb2/at...achmentid=3977 __________________ www.acesofthedeep.com Last edited by CaptainNemo; 03-10-08 at 07:30 PM.

03-10-08, 08:10 PM	#36
kapitan_zur_see Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: France Posts: 614 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	oh my god...! The SH3 models just don't live up to the level of quality of those from SH4. Gonna have to rework the VII model into 3dsmax... :hmm: __________________

03-10-08, 08:13 PM	#37
AOTD_MadMax Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bremen/Germany Posts: 749 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 1	@ Gimpy Who is we ? Did you ever worked out some mod ? Greets Maddy __________________ AOTD is gone, iam the last survivor ........

03-10-08, 08:13 PM	#38
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	>>I hope I could clear up the disaccord. No harsh feeling or complaints from me. >>.As I mentioned we still hope that there is a chance for cooperation or at least for an exchange What is it that you want from me? >>it would have been nice for them to ask. They did PM me. But, they didnt really need to. As an aside, when i returned to subsim, i cleaned out my inbox. Anything in there was a month or two old. It's now back to 60. And in case anyones wondered, yes there are times when i intentionally do NOT clean it out. Kinda interesting when you get 6 emails from subsim notifying you that someone tried to send a PM but your box was full. :rotfl:

03-10-08, 08:19 PM	#40
CaptainNemo Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany/Essen Posts: 132 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	@ Ducimus We would like to exchange some experiences regarding modding, to help and learn from each other. But only if you are interested and have got the time for it. __________________ www.acesofthedeep.com

03-10-08, 08:44 PM	#41
AkbarGulag Samurai Navy Join Date: May 2007 Location: cfgdatsimZOMGddstgasns Posts: 571 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 1	Is there a readme available for this? I can't read German. __________________ "6 days into his patrol, the first enemy ship was spotted... a trawler... ...It was at this point, Captain AkbarGulag realised how green his crew was..."

03-10-08, 09:10 PM	#42
CaptainNemo Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany/Essen Posts: 132 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Yes there will be an readme in english where we will exactly list all the mods which will be in "our" modpack. __________________ www.acesofthedeep.com

03-10-08, 10:19 PM	#43
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	We're all trying to make things better. <S> on your effort! tater

03-11-08, 01:14 AM	#45
Captain von Keldunk Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 376 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 21	AOTD Fall OF THE RISING SUN HELLO I see nothing wrong there. As it is germans making this mod i hope they get uboat crew lanquage problem fixed at least, also as many bugs as possible. Maybe tm, pe/row can use some of they work also. Modders standing on shoulders of other modders, this is how it should be. "use as you like" this is what i say of my mods. If someone can use what you have made to make game better ,it is BETTER. __________________ SH