Re-introducing the Iron Cross?

Skybird · 03-07-08, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AntEater

Basically, right wingers don't take the Bundeswehr serious because it is not like the Wehrmacht and left wingers hate the Bundeswehr because it is too much like the Wehrmacht

Nice summary!

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Especially troublesome are the "Mail order ranks" (Neckermann-Dienstgrade) where specialists start at a higher rank. Instant feldwebels are simply not taken serious by real NCOs.

What the...?

I did not even know that such things existed. Are they spared from basic training, or do they run it at already higher ranks?

I have a loose contact to two officers, who both have had time in Afghanistan. One of them said "We are running lower and lower on good seargents." I need to ask him next time if he meant it regarding quality, or quantity.

AntEater · 03-07-08, 07:16 AM

When I served, this thing was limited to "Neckermann-Hauptgefreite", who were inevitably scorned by real Hauptgefreite like me.
Apparently right now they have instant Feldwebel, and apparently there's a single "instant major" (female) in the Luftwaffe.
But those Neckermanns are usually limited to technical specialities, not combat troops.
The Neckermann Major, for example, is a flight safety officer for the Flugbereitschaft, and formerly worked in the same position for Lufthansa, IMHO.
But since these people have the same rank from the day of enlistment it would be funny:
"Verdammt, Herr Major, wie sieht ihr Spind aus? Ist da ne Bombe eingeschlagen? Wenn das in fünf Minuten noch so aussieht platz mir der Kragen!"
:rotfl:

03-07-08, 07:16 AM	#2
AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	When I served, this thing was limited to "Neckermann-Hauptgefreite", who were inevitably scorned by real Hauptgefreite like me. Apparently right now they have instant Feldwebel, and apparently there's a single "instant major" (female) in the Luftwaffe. But those Neckermanns are usually limited to technical specialities, not combat troops. The Neckermann Major, for example, is a flight safety officer for the Flugbereitschaft, and formerly worked in the same position for Lufthansa, IMHO. But since these people have the same rank from the day of enlistment it would be funny: "Verdammt, Herr Major, wie sieht ihr Spind aus? Ist da ne Bombe eingeschlagen? Wenn das in fünf Minuten noch so aussieht platz mir der Kragen!" :rotfl: __________________