Type Ix Or 7??

[von hally]

thanx for the replies all!!!

some good points posted...think i'l try the IX and revert to my VII if i dont like!

seems a bit sly doing this but what the hell:rotfl:

[Wreford-Brown]

In my Atlantic career I use a IX as I love the ability to take a convoy apart with the huge weapon load and get to the US or Caribbean to hunt some tankers.
In my Med career I use a VII as it's smaller, more manoeuvrable and dives quicker (aircraft in the Med seem to be everywhere!). The shorter distances in the Med also mean I don't lose out on range by using a VII.

Different jobs require different tools.

[Grayson02sept1980]

Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

In my Atlantic career I use a IX as I love the ability to take a convoy apart with the huge weapon load and get to the US or Caribbean to hunt some tankers.
In my Med career I use a VII as it's smaller, more manoeuvrable and dives quicker (aircraft in the Med seem to everywhere!). The shorter distances in the Med also mean I don't lose out on range by using a VII.

Different jobs require different tools.

exactly!

I found my new IX (new career) bette for the atlantic and for getting may out of one patrol though the boat really is a bus...

Just be carefull with your IX. It is bigger... so it's a..e is bigger ... and bigger a..es are spottet faster and more easily :rotfl:
That I had to find out the hard way.......

Was on my second run on a convoy and was hit by a depth charge right ontop of my fromt torp room... all tubes smashed but #1 ... I then shot with the two torps I could use (the one loaded and one left to reload) at leas 14kt with pure luck...
Will be more carefull next time.

Have fun with your IX and I really think they both are good... it is just a matter of taste.

[Konovalov]

Variety is the spice of life. Started a campaign Sep 1939 in Wilhelmshaven with the Type VIIb before transferring to Lorient in 41. I stuck with the VIIb for one more mission before I changed boats to a Type IXb having become a little bored with my VIIb.

My first mission with the IXb and I'm off the east coast of Canada hunting big tankers. First convoy I intercepted was about +18 merchants with 4 escorts. At the convoy center were 3 large tankers and a whale ship of which I sunk 2 of the tankers and the whale ship. I'm now setting myself up for a second run on the convoy to finnish it off. You really appreciate that extra load of torps with the Type IX.

But as Steed said earlier, "try them all" and alternate every so often.

[Tessa]

Though very long, the trips to the Carribean are usually major hauls. If you can sneak into Curacao sometimes you luck out and there'll be 3 or 4 T2 or T3 tankers sitting there. Plus along the way good 80% of all the traffic are tankers. Though the IXD2's dive time is the worst, if you actually invest in a good Flak crew there is more than ample firepower on that ship to down anything (watching those annoying as hell B-24's crash is so satisfying). Though you almost need to permanently station a repair person on the flak deck, it gets damaged during any fight. Best I've been able to muster so far from down there is 110k, still had 3 eels left but with 4% hull strength left I was just happy to make it home

[Hartmann]

Type IX-B boat for example

Long range or more speed for the same range
High surfaced speed (19-20 Knts in calm waters)
6 torpedoes tubes, 4 forward and two in stern
Good AA guns
Only takes a few seconds more in crash dive compared with VII boats.
23 torpedoes loaded compared with 14
Great for convoys during the happy times.

And Finally i sneaked into the MED with a IX.B boat in a succesfull patrol and survive to return to my base again .

but my case is special, i always use big boats (sh1,sh4) and i know where are the limits for this tipe of big sharks.

[von hally]

great replies all

thanks hartmann

ive now upgraded to a ix and firs impressions are good

she does dive like a lazy cow:rotfl: but the extra payload is very impressive!!!!
im pleasantly surprised and glad i decided to give it a go

cheers all

[von hally]

sorry trigger happy

[Chisum]

I just get out a Type II/A and I must say that it was the most horrific experience in my kaleun live !
Sorry to the type II's fans but it is my impression.

And in this situation, buy a type VII is a great issue.
But the type IX, espacially the IX/D2, still the beter choice in my opinion.

[msalama]

Sorry to the type II's fans but it is my impression.

Hey, tastes differ so no need to be sorry. I personally love the little critter - just finished my 8th patrol with her and everyone's still alive and happy! I've sunk some 25kt of shipping which I wouldn't say is too much at all, but then my main aim is to survive as long as I can instead of cowboying all around the Nordsee and ending up with my a*se blown to bits...

So yeah, I love that boat. Made one patrol in a VIIB, too, but promptly changed back because this IIA babe is small, compact, nimble and even occasionally deadly - and hey, there're less Bernards there to worry about too! So a tight package she is indeed

But each to their own of course. The real Atlantic warhorse, the VIIC/41, is a different case though IMO - will definitely get her if I make it alive so far.

S! m8.

[Grayson02sept1980]

I guess it is the same between the II vs the VII as it is with the VII vs the IX

the differences are similar.
The last one is:
- bigger
- slower
- has more payload
- can go farer
- can go faster (?? dunno the speed of the type IIs I admit... correct me if you like to)
but also
- is not as agile as the smaller one
- is detected more easily

or am I wrong?

Right now I am used to the "Bus" (IXc)

Lets say:
"Canoe" - II
*dunno* - VII
"Bus" - IX

:hmm:

About the VII I am not sure...
same for the XXI... haven't tried that one.....

[Kipparikalle]

I prefer IX due to amount of torpedoes it carry, and the AA firepower you can install on it.
IX is also better at taking damage, so having a duel with DD mostly ends on your victory. Not to mention when you have 2 x doudlebarreled AA MG's, and 4 x barreled killing machine of planes.

You feel pretty safe in it.

[Grayson02sept1980]

are the towers restricet to certain types of IX boats?

Or can I mount every type of tower I want on ever IX?

Cause the D2 is slower... etc.

I am really satisfied with my IXC right now... though I also liked the speed and agility of the VIIc ...

[Foghladh_mhara]

Originally Posted by Kipparikalle

I prefer IX due to amount of torpedoes it carry, and the AA firepower you can install on it.
IX is also better at taking damage, so having a duel with DD mostly ends on your victory. Not to mention when you have 2 x doudlebarreled AA MG's, and 4 x barreled killing machine of planes.

You feel pretty safe in it.

I assume your talking about surface actions? I'd be surprised if any kind of duel between a u-boat and a Destroyer ended up in a victory for the sub. I cant win a gun battle with an armed merchant nevermind a destroyer!!

[Kipparikalle]

Originally Posted by Foghladh_mhara

I assume your talking about surface actions? I'd be surprised if any kind of duel between a u-boat and a Destroyer ended up in a victory for the sub. I cant win a gun battle with an armed merchant nevermind a destroyer!!

Just fight with them long enought and you can sink them pretty fast.

Heres couple of tips:

1.shoot on the command desk, it makes the guns less accurate.
2.shoot on the front, below the waterline. It blows up pretty nicely.
3.Go straight at the DD, I know it sounds crazy, but I'll explain below.
4.When the destroyer comes straight at you, shoot torpedo that detonates magnetically at it. Don't make extra turns so that the DD doesn't change its course to ram you.
5.???
6.Profit!!!