Adjusting GWX 2.0 Sensor Ranges?

joea · 02-28-08, 09:31 AM

Quick comments do you have your periscope up at this time? What is the weather? Time of day?

onelifecrisis · 02-28-08, 09:46 AM

If you get inside their active sonar cone they just start pinging you (if they have active sonar). It doesn't matter what your aspect ratio is - that only affects how good of a signal they get back from the ping. It doesn't affect whether or not they start pinging in the first place. They just do, every time. You just have to be in the cone and they ping.

The solution is to not be in the cone in the first place.

Gezur(Arbeit) · 02-28-08, 09:52 AM

Press "Z" key

Kpt. Lehmann · 02-28-08, 09:52 AM

Also, just because you are being pinged, doesn't always mean that you've been detected.

However, being pinged certainly always makes you FEEL like you've been detected.

Dowly · 02-28-08, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

However, being pinged certainly always makes you FEEL like you've been detected.

Ditto! Once a sea turtle swam right on to my hull, resulting in a sharp metallic sound that I immediatly though as a sonar, sooo I surfaced, ordered the men to get out and sunk my boat.

BdU wasnt that happy...

sabretwo · 02-28-08, 01:25 PM

Thanks guys for responding to my post.

I don't usually keep the periscope up longer than it takes to scan and see if I'm in visual range yet. I'm pretty conscious of that. In many cases, they seem to be homing in on me before I've even reached visual range.

I know the sonar cone on early sonar is supposed to have a range of about 1200 meters. It seems like they're picking me up long before that. Usually one will start moving in my direction, then when he's about 2-3 kilometers away the party starts and the rest of the escorts begin moving in quickly. (Mind you, I'm figuring this out this from my hydrophone contacts and an occasional peek with the external camera)

What is the range on their hydrophones? Am I more vulnerable to hydrophonic detection at shallower depth? That's the only way I can think they are picking me up. Once I go deep and keep it silent running under 1 kt / 100 rpm, I have no problem escaping.

I don't have the noise meter activated, but I should be quiet enough. (Unless one of my crew on stand-down is snooring too loud :hmm: ..."Wake Dieter up now or put a pillow over his head!")

Thanks!

Erich Topp · 02-28-08, 03:33 PM

Never had a problems like this in GWX. Modders are right - there's all ok with AI sensors in GWX. Of course, you're more detectable at periscope depth, than on 100 meters below)) i am in 1940 now in one career, and in 1943 in another, second one is more tough, but that's more interesting. As already said - maybe you're not turning silent running on?

Gezur(Arbeit) · 02-28-08, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sabretwo

Thanks guys for responding to my post.

I don't usually keep the periscope up longer than it takes to scan and see if I'm in visual range yet. I'm pretty conscious of that. In many cases, they seem to be homing in on me before I've even reached visual range.

I know the sonar cone on early sonar is supposed to have a range of about 1200 meters. It seems like they're picking me up long before that. Usually one will start moving in my direction, then when he's about 2-3 kilometers away the party starts and the rest of the escorts begin moving in quickly. (Mind you, I'm figuring this out this from my hydrophone contacts and an occasional peek with the external camera)

What is the range on their hydrophones? Am I more vulnerable to hydrophonic detection at shallower depth? That's the only way I can think they are picking me up. Once I go deep and keep it silent running under 1 kt / 100 rpm, I have no problem escaping.

I don't have the noise meter activated, but I should be quiet enough. (Unless one of my crew on stand-down is snooring too loud :hmm: ..."Wake Dieter up now or put a pillow over his head!")

Thanks!

Did you press "Z" otherwise you will stilll be 2 loud...even with 1 knot.... (remember your crew is making noise 2 ... its "silent hunter 3" not "noisy hunter 3"

)

and you periscope is not 2 high? at calm sea the periscope should not be higger than 1 meter over the water.

Bilgerat · 02-28-08, 05:33 PM

From what iv'e read, subs were harder to detect at periscope depth due to the fact ths sonar was aimed 6% below the surface because the waves would interfere with the signal. And im assuming the hydrophones would share the same restrictions.
Ive tinkered with the sensors and now im not bieng attacked every time i hear a ping, in fact i can tell when i have been detected because there will be a loud ping then a quieter one then its rapid loud pinging. but there have been times they pinged their little guts out and never detected me

On the sensors i noticed there is and active and a passive type, were those actualy supposed to be the same unit and not 2 separate ones? I ask because i set like types to have the same detection cones, and so far my experiences are very close to the ones i have read about.

02-28-08, 09:46 AM	#2
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	If you get inside their active sonar cone they just start pinging you (if they have active sonar). It doesn't matter what your aspect ratio is - that only affects how good of a signal they get back from the ping. It doesn't affect whether or not they start pinging in the first place. They just do, every time. You just have to be in the cone and they ping. The solution is to not be in the cone in the first place. __________________ Freedom of speech - priceless. For everything else there's Mastercard.

02-28-08, 09:52 AM	#4
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,994 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Also, just because you are being pinged, doesn't always mean that you've been detected. However, being pinged certainly always makes you FEEL like you've been detected. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

02-28-08, 09:31 AM	#1
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Quick comments do you have your periscope up at this time? What is the weather? Time of day?

02-28-08, 09:52 AM	#3
Gezur(Arbeit) Soundman Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 149 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Press "Z" key

02-28-08, 01:25 PM	#6
sabretwo Frogman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 295 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys for responding to my post. I don't usually keep the periscope up longer than it takes to scan and see if I'm in visual range yet. I'm pretty conscious of that. In many cases, they seem to be homing in on me before I've even reached visual range. I know the sonar cone on early sonar is supposed to have a range of about 1200 meters. It seems like they're picking me up long before that. Usually one will start moving in my direction, then when he's about 2-3 kilometers away the party starts and the rest of the escorts begin moving in quickly. (Mind you, I'm figuring this out this from my hydrophone contacts and an occasional peek with the external camera) What is the range on their hydrophones? Am I more vulnerable to hydrophonic detection at shallower depth? That's the only way I can think they are picking me up. Once I go deep and keep it silent running under 1 kt / 100 rpm, I have no problem escaping. I don't have the noise meter activated, but I should be quiet enough. (Unless one of my crew on stand-down is snooring too loud :hmm: ..."Wake Dieter up now or put a pillow over his head!") Thanks!

02-28-08, 03:33 PM	#7
Erich Topp A-ganger Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 80 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Never had a problems like this in GWX. Modders are right - there's all ok with AI sensors in GWX. Of course, you're more detectable at periscope depth, than on 100 meters below)) i am in 1940 now in one career, and in 1943 in another, second one is more tough, but that's more interesting. As already said - maybe you're not turning silent running on?

02-28-08, 05:33 PM	#9
Bilgerat Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 12 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	From what iv'e read, subs were harder to detect at periscope depth due to the fact ths sonar was aimed 6% below the surface because the waves would interfere with the signal. And im assuming the hydrophones would share the same restrictions. Ive tinkered with the sensors and now im not bieng attacked every time i hear a ping, in fact i can tell when i have been detected because there will be a loud ping then a quieter one then its rapid loud pinging. but there have been times they pinged their little guts out and never detected me On the sensors i noticed there is and active and a passive type, were those actualy supposed to be the same unit and not 2 separate ones? I ask because i set like types to have the same detection cones, and so far my experiences are very close to the ones i have read about.