Cursed boats, naval supperstitions?

CCIP · 02-27-08, 11:42 PM

Yea, but it's a kind of perverse (un)luckiness if you will. How many nasty incidents can a boat like that live through and still continue service?

CSS Hunley springs to mind immediately. I forgot the number of times it sank killing its own crew, even before its final deployment

Lt West · 02-28-08, 06:26 AM

Yeah, The K-19's production was rushed wasn't it i mean with all the faulty equipment and some bad crew members it was destined to sink.I Belive right now K-19 is scrapped probablly sitting in some junk yard by Moscow.I saw one of her engine telegraphs on ebay for 500 dollars

Captain Nemo · 02-28-08, 06:42 AM

Up until fairly recently the K-19 was rusting away in some Russian sub base in the Arctic. I think it's finally been scrapped now. An interesting story and not a bad film either.

Nemo

Takao · 02-28-08, 11:27 AM

I though the bottles were supposed to be scored first, so that they broke easily.
Last I heard the K-19 had been bought by some rich russian businessman so he could turn it into a submariner's bar. Surviving crewmembers were in opposition to this and had been attempting to block the K-19's transformation. Altough I have not heard anymore about this.

Now this is one cursed ship

http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/...cle_8807.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Joyita

Sailor Steve · 02-28-08, 11:33 AM

I don't believe it for a minute. A ship is only as unlucky as the people on board believe her to be.

Of course, that could become a self-fulfilling prophecy...or curse.

Oberon · 02-28-08, 01:35 PM

"A person who believes he is going to die, will often find a way to make it happen."

StdDev · 02-28-08, 03:00 PM

How about SS-192 USS Squalus.
Sank during sea trials.. killed 26 men..(32 saved)
Salvaged and became the USS Sailfish
USS Sailfish had a fairly good war record (40K tons of Japanese ships) and survived the war!

nikimcbee · 03-02-08, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I don't believe it for a minute. A ship is only as unlucky as the people on board believe her to be.

Of course, that could become a self-fulfilling prophecy...or curse.

right on the money

August · 03-02-08, 03:30 AM

The American privateer General Arnold, a 20-gun brigantine, grounded off Plymouth Massachusetts during the great Christmas blizzard of 1778. Unable to reach the vessel by boat due to the weather and ice floes blocking the harbor, Plymouth residents took three whole days to build a causeway out to the stricken ship where they rescued 36 survivors, all that survived the wait out of a crew of nearly 100.

Local legend has it that the ship grounded on the same day that Benedict Arnold made his decision to turn traitor.

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02-27-08, 11:42 PM	#1
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Yea, but it's a kind of perverse (un)luckiness if you will. How many nasty incidents can a boat like that live through and still continue service? CSS Hunley springs to mind immediately. I forgot the number of times it sank killing its own crew, even before its final deployment __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

02-28-08, 06:26 AM	#2
Lt West Watch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Somewhere in the pacific Hunting Japs Posts: 23 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah, The K-19's production was rushed wasn't it i mean with all the faulty equipment and some bad crew members it was destined to sink.I Belive right now K-19 is scrapped probablly sitting in some junk yard by Moscow.I saw one of her engine telegraphs on ebay for 500 dollars __________________ "The object of war is not to die for your country,but to make the other bastard die for his!"-George Patton- "Success is how high you bounce when you hit bottom"- George Patton-

02-28-08, 06:42 AM	#3
Captain Nemo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 1,144 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Up until fairly recently the K-19 was rusting away in some Russian sub base in the Arctic. I think it's finally been scrapped now. An interesting story and not a bad film either. Nemo __________________ "I'm afraid there is no disguising the fact that King's obsession with the Pacific and the Battle of Washington cost us dear in the Battle of the Atlantic". Sir John Slessor GCB, DSO, MC, DL AOC-in-C Coastal Command RAF ___________________________________________

02-28-08, 11:33 AM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I don't believe it for a minute. A ship is only as unlucky as the people on board believe her to be. Of course, that could become a self-fulfilling prophecy...or curse. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-28-08, 11:27 AM	#4
Takao Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 244 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I though the bottles were supposed to be scored first, so that they broke easily. Last I heard the K-19 had been bought by some rich russian businessman so he could turn it into a submariner's bar. Surviving crewmembers were in opposition to this and had been attempting to block the K-19's transformation. Altough I have not heard anymore about this. Now this is one cursed ship http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/...cle_8807.shtml http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Joyita

02-28-08, 01:35 PM	#6
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	"A person who believes he is going to die, will often find a way to make it happen."

02-28-08, 03:00 PM	#7
StdDev Legend of the Sea Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: the Great Wet North Posts: 635 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	How about SS-192 USS Squalus. Sank during sea trials.. killed 26 men..(32 saved) Salvaged and became the USS Sailfish USS Sailfish had a fairly good war record (40K tons of Japanese ships) and survived the war!

03-02-08, 03:30 AM	#9
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,199 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The American privateer General Arnold, a 20-gun brigantine, grounded off Plymouth Massachusetts during the great Christmas blizzard of 1778. Unable to reach the vessel by boat due to the weather and ice floes blocking the harbor, Plymouth residents took three whole days to build a causeway out to the stricken ship where they rescued 36 survivors, all that survived the wait out of a crew of nearly 100. Local legend has it that the ship grounded on the same day that Benedict Arnold made his decision to turn traitor. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see. Last edited by August; 03-02-08 at 03:42 AM.