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Old 02-27-08, 10:37 PM   #1
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I agree, not all that's super-duper is always practical


Depending on what happens in the world in the foreseeable future, I wouldn't be surprised that the concept of the carrier itself will be obsolete and utterly useless within 50 years.
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Old 02-27-08, 10:43 PM   #2
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f-117 sucks :rotfl::rotfl:
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Old 02-28-08, 10:51 AM   #3
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f-117 sucks :rotfl::rotfl:
THat would be an inaccurate statement. It was an excellent aircraft in the late 1970's and early 1980's. It proved itself in the 1990's and 2000's many times over, but as that article I posted said, it is a great airplane for today, but its usefulness is seriously outclassed right now by better aircraft.

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"It is still a good airplane right now. But when you look 10 years from now or 15 years from now when you have F-22s and Joint Strike Fighters that have the same, low-observable characteristics and can carry more than two internal weapons, it's time to start looking at a transition," Moseley said.
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Old 02-28-08, 11:12 AM   #4
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f-117 sucks :rotfl::rotfl:
What stunning and insightful analysis. Who needs Janes Defence publications when we have you around.
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Old 02-28-08, 11:22 AM   #5
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f-117 sucks :rotfl::rotfl:
What stunning and insightful analysis. Who needs Janes Defence publications when we have you around.
:rotfl::rotfl: Yeah - Jane Sucks by comparrison! :p

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Old 02-28-08, 09:22 AM   #6
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Depending on what happens in the world in the foreseeable future, I wouldn't be surprised that the concept of the carrier itself will be obsolete and utterly useless within 50 years.
I'm not so sure unless aircraft speed and fuel useage change a lot. There is nothing like a carrier task force off your shores to make one rethink your position. In fact a carrier task force might take on a larger roll in world affairs. Fleets would have to have more destroyers and frigates though to properly protect.
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Old 02-28-08, 09:32 AM   #7
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Some theorists are saying that aircraft carriers wouldn't survive for very long in a modern war. Expensive, pretty, and doomed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

The fact remains that the most useful task a CVBG can accomplish is power projection - designed to avoid war through intimidation. And, to be fair, CVBG's are fairly intimidating.
However, if the carrier battle group is proved to be as vulnerable as some believe it to be, I can't see it's power projection abilities being very effective.
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Old 02-28-08, 10:42 AM   #8
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The only real use of a very expensive stealth carrier would be for first strike offensive warfare ...

Depending on which country you chose to launch an air strike on ... you can expect retaillation.

Terroist are available for a price to get even if we attack a non-super power country ...

Leaves the super powers of Russia or China to start a war with ... the ending scenerio would not be very pleasant if we attacked either of these countries.

What we need is a submaine that can carry supplies and oil for the regular Navy ships that haven't converted to nuclear yet ...
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Old 02-28-08, 11:31 AM   #9
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What we need is a submaine that can carry supplies and oil for the regular Navy ships that haven't converted to nuclear yet ...
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