Advice for harbour raids

Nuoz · 02-18-08, 01:50 AM

Why didn't the germans do that irl? Too dangerous? really?

Nuoz · 02-18-08, 01:51 AM

I mean what made it a sure to die situation? Or in other worlds, what was different?

Kptlt. Siegmann · 02-18-08, 02:37 AM

Chances were, more often than not, that the port was heavily defended, and most likely not worth the risk. Shallow waters, mines, subnets, and probably a handful of tin cans. That's asking for a u-boat never to return.

In my case in-game, I almost didn't make it out of Freetown alive. An ASW Trawler dumped a can right on top of my bow quarters and wrecked havoc and pushed my boat into the sea floor some 5m below me (I was at periscope depth). I somehow didn't sustain critical damage, and made note of the fact that I shouldn't dive very deep for the duration of the patrol. Little did I know that 30 hours later, that would be the very reason that sent me to the bottom. (My boat crushed at just over 80 meters when I was pushed down by a close barrage of depth charges.)

So to sum it up. Risk vs Reward...we'll pass on harbor raids...

d@rk51d3 · 02-18-08, 02:54 AM

On my Freetown raid, I surfaced a little too early on my way out. It was foggy and pouring with rain, so I thought I'd pop up a little way out and head home on the surface.

WRONG!!!!!

A seachlight picked me up quickly, and I took a barrage of fire from the shore turrets and a few escorts still at dock, before I could dive again. Killed all but about 8 men, and left me with a hull integrity of about the same number. All compartments pemanently red.

With just enough men to steer the boat and drive the motors......that was a slow lonley drive home.

ReM · 02-18-08, 04:39 PM

Start a career in Wilhelmshaven in 1939 and rush through the channel before hostilities break out. This should get you through the Channel just in time. Then go to Portsmouth. You can get there soon after the start of war. HMS Hood is there and if you position correctly you can sink it there and then.

The harbour itself is only mildly defended.

It was like this in GWX...don't know about GWX 2.0

Sailor Steve · 02-21-08, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuoz

Why didn't the germans do that irl? Too dangerous? really?

What was dangerous was the unknown. The only successful harbor raid - the only one they tried, really - was Prien's attack at Scapa Flow; and he didn't just go do it. Admiral Doenitz used the latest aerial photographs and spy information to plan the attack, and he personally recruited Prien for the job.

Other harbors were probably heavily defended, especially after Scapa Flow, but the real deterrent was the lack of information.

Myxale · 02-21-08, 08:21 AM

MY only advice for Harbor raids is a TypeII.:hmm:

02-18-08, 01:50 AM	#1
Nuoz Sparky Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Here Posts: 155 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Why didn't the germans do that irl? Too dangerous? really? __________________ "Listen, 'sir', it's real simple. Add the number of times we dive to the number of times we surface. Divide that number by two. If the result doesn't come out even, don't open the hatch"

02-18-08, 01:51 AM	#2
Nuoz Sparky Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Here Posts: 155 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I mean what made it a sure to die situation? Or in other worlds, what was different? __________________ "Listen, 'sir', it's real simple. Add the number of times we dive to the number of times we surface. Divide that number by two. If the result doesn't come out even, don't open the hatch"

02-18-08, 04:39 PM	#5
ReM Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brewsky, Galore Posts: 618 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Start a career in Wilhelmshaven in 1939 and rush through the channel before hostilities break out. This should get you through the Channel just in time. Then go to Portsmouth. You can get there soon after the start of war. HMS Hood is there and if you position correctly you can sink it there and then. The harbour itself is only mildly defended. It was like this in GWX...don't know about GWX 2.0 __________________ Daddy cool

02-21-08, 08:21 AM	#7
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	MY only advice for Harbor raids is a TypeII.:hmm: __________________ SH3+GWX SH5+WoS Still Sailing....still Deep

02-18-08, 02:37 AM	#3
Kptlt. Siegmann Machinist's Mate Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Docked at Kiel Posts: 128 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Chances were, more often than not, that the port was heavily defended, and most likely not worth the risk. Shallow waters, mines, subnets, and probably a handful of tin cans. That's asking for a u-boat never to return. In my case in-game, I almost didn't make it out of Freetown alive. An ASW Trawler dumped a can right on top of my bow quarters and wrecked havoc and pushed my boat into the sea floor some 5m below me (I was at periscope depth). I somehow didn't sustain critical damage, and made note of the fact that I shouldn't dive very deep for the duration of the patrol. Little did I know that 30 hours later, that would be the very reason that sent me to the bottom. (My boat crushed at just over 80 meters when I was pushed down by a close barrage of depth charges.) So to sum it up. Risk vs Reward...we'll pass on harbor raids...

02-18-08, 02:54 AM	#4
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,952 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	On my Freetown raid, I surfaced a little too early on my way out. It was foggy and pouring with rain, so I thought I'd pop up a little way out and head home on the surface. WRONG!!!!! A seachlight picked me up quickly, and I took a barrage of fire from the shore turrets and a few escorts still at dock, before I could dive again. Killed all but about 8 men, and left me with a hull integrity of about the same number. All compartments pemanently red. With just enough men to steer the boat and drive the motors......that was a slow lonley drive home.